AVZ Discussion 2022

KentCStrait said:

Jens is on public record stating he holds 8 million shares, and he’s also previously mentioned selling part of his holding to cover his original outlay.

So no matter what happens from here — whether the offer is $0.50 or $5 — he doesn’t lose a cent. He’s likely walking away with millions either way. It’s not a criticism, but it does explain why he’s more relaxed about a lower return than those who came in later and still have serious capital at risk. For them, it’s not about how many millions they’re making — it’s about whether they even get out whole.

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BEISHA said:

looks like everyone wants the cash and GTFO.......dont blame them.....i fit into that category but wont accept less than " fair value " !

As others have posted Manono is a project that has a 50+yr LOM , money making machine, the ultimate lithium package that cannot be matced for sheer grade & scale, lithium spot is shit, but it wont remain like that for too much longer, therefore a tight arse offer wont cut it no matter what.

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BEISHA said:

looks like everyone wants the cash and GTFO.......dont blame them.....i fit into that category but wont accept less than " fair value " !

As others have posted Manono is a project that has a 50+yr LOM , money making machine, the ultimate lithium package that cannot be matced for sheer grade & scale, lithium spot is shit, but it wont remain like that for too much longer, therefore a tight arse offer wont cut it no matter what.

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Hodlandwin69 said:

It's real lol, everyone's so jumpy, TSE will be irrelevant in a couple weeks, just tough it out.
If it were AI generated or CAD, it wouldn't have the fish eye effect curving the wall at the bottom of the image, and likely would have more even grass appearance, where the grass on the left is splotchy and dead on areas.

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Bonsoir said:

If that looks real to you then you sound like a troll to me, where have you been for the last 3 years.

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Spikerama said:

I've been looking into starting a new Forum for legacy members. It would be invite only. But not worth doing for a few short months unless enough people would want to swap over as it's a lot of effort to set up.

PM me if you are interested and I might delve a bit further into how to make something useful.

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KMoney said:

Ha.

Three years?

I started accumulating at .06

So, no troll. Just know my shit when it comes to imagery due to my line of work. Sure it could still be doctored, but there aren’t any obvious signs.

As for any ‘emergence’ my HC account goes back to ‘16. Just new here

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KMoney said:

Ha.

Three years?

I started accumulating at .06

So, no troll. Just know my shit when it comes to imagery due to my line of work. Sure it could still be doctored, but there aren’t any obvious signs.

As for any ‘emergence’ my HC account goes back to ‘16. Just new here

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Mining8 said:

I appreciate people wanting maximum for this deposit but you have to consider the lithium price. Also we are not a producing mine at full output and then there is sovereign risk. And just on the lithium price, Albermarle’s bid of $3 a share back in 2023 is not looking so hot now; current LTR price: 0.57c. The thing in our favour based on the drilling is we have the world’s largest and purest and cheapest to develop lithium deposit compared to inferior minnows like LTR.

Also a class action will get you no money, except misplaced vengeance. Nigel has done everything he can. It is not his fault but the fault of corrupt entities in the DRC and China which interrupted AVZ’s 100% legal process. He was told he would get the mining licence but corrupt entities took it away every time.

And…..going to the bitter end with the ICSID will get you no money either. The DRC is broke; and besides it will take years.

Our only hope is that Kobald or another American entity buys us out and the catalyst being the American government who realise if the Chinese get their hands on the world’s largest lithium deposit they will control lithium pricing and supply.

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Mining8 said:

I appreciate people wanting maximum for this deposit but you have to consider the lithium price. Also we are not a producing mine at full output and then there is sovereign risk. And just on the lithium price, Albermarle’s bid of $3 a share back in 2023 is not looking so hot now; current LTR price: 0.57c. The thing in our favour based on the drilling is we have the world’s largest and purest and cheapest to develop lithium deposit compared to inferior minnows like LTR.

Also a class action will get you no money, except misplaced vengeance. Nigel has done everything he can. It is not his fault but the fault of corrupt entities in the DRC and China which interrupted AVZ’s 100% legal process. He was told he would get the mining licence but corrupt entities took it away every time.

And…..going to the bitter end with the ICSID will get you no money either. The DRC is broke; and besides it will take years.

Our only hope is that Kobald or another American entity buys us out and the catalyst being the American government who realise if the Chinese get their hands on the world’s largest lithium deposit they will control lithium pricing and supply.

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KMoney said:

Ha.

Three years?

I started accumulating at .06

So, no troll. Just know my shit when it comes to imagery due to my line of work. Sure it could still be doctored, but there aren’t any obvious signs.

As for any ‘emergence’ my HC account goes back to ‘16. Just new here

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BEISHA said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/28/economy/trump-us-companies-china?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

Meanwhile.....

US & China trade wars just keep getting hotter ......

Wouldnt be at all surprised to see a similar war with Manono....

AVZ in the box seat...........holding all the cards.

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Mining8 said:

I appreciate people wanting maximum for this deposit but you have to consider the lithium price. Also we are not a producing mine at full output and then there is sovereign risk. And just on the lithium price, Albermarle’s bid of $3 a share back in 2023 is not looking so hot now; current LTR price: 0.57c. The thing in our favour based on the drilling is we have the world’s largest and purest and cheapest to develop lithium deposit compared to inferior minnows like LTR.

Also a class action will get you no money, except misplaced vengeance. Nigel has done everything he can. It is not his fault but the fault of corrupt entities in the DRC and China which interrupted AVZ’s 100% legal process. He was told he would get the mining licence but corrupt entities took it away every time.

And…..going to the bitter end with the ICSID will get you no money either. The DRC is broke; and besides it will take years.

Our only hope is that Kobald or another American entity buys us out and the catalyst being the American government who realise if the Chinese get their hands on the world’s largest lithium deposit they will control lithium pricing and supply.

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Yaseen said:

I have to respectfully disagree.

DRC will be pulling in billions under 'security for minerals' deal, if they try shifty business once yank companies are anchored in then I reckon Trump will bring his own version of Democracy, but either way the sovereign risk drops substantially, and I consider it almost spineless of some(with all due respect) to sit there and say the the court cases will bring us nothing, as that is exactly what our enemies and potential bidders want us to think, so I refuse to buy into those shenanigans, we should not be entertaining the idea whatsoever, it should be dismissed entirely , and in fact if any potential American bidder attempts to bring it up then we should call them out immediately and remind them theyre coming in from the wrong angle and seem very opportunistic considering the 'imminent' signing of the 'security for minerals' deal. Even under a worse case scenario the court cases brought us nothing short term well that really is totally insignifcant to any potential legitimate bidding company because they wont touch it until its sorted, so just 'no', if they bring that up in negotiations we should add another $1ps for their disingenuousness. It's our price on our terms or we'll be happy to take our $10b through the courts once the DRC starts rolling in transparent tax money under the 'security for minerals' deal, so if you want it pay 'fair price' or stop wasting our time trying to win bs psychological games.

I also dont subscribe to the idea that Kobold or another American company is our only hope. CATH arent about to just sit back and watch this float out of their hands, they went to the extent of blatantly lying to us tab the $240m every month while they were really trying to back door us to get us out of the picture, then when that didnt look like it was going to work they threw us $20m, they clearly want it bad, as to how they'd obtain it is another question, but the Chinese(Zijin) have outwitted us at every turn thus far (obviously due to their corruption), one thing we should of all learned is to never underestimate them again, theyre now sitting there on our ground about to mine while we've sat here begging for money just to keep the court cases going. Shareholders should let it play out and stop buying into the scare tactics of our detractors or those desperate for their money

Its a game of Poker, we have the better hand, and should be calling out all these bluffs. It's surely one of the most sought after resources on earth right now due to the high grade and efficiency to mine, so we need to be very firm with any lowballers

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Frank said:

Corruption and Embezzlement: How Will Justice Save Tshisekedi's Image?

Félix Tshisekedi's second term as President of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) is marked by major challenges, including the Rwandan aggression and alarming cases of embezzlement within public companies and ministries.

This situation has caused deep concern among the Congolese population, jeopardizing not only trust in institutions but also the country's economic development.

To restore trust and foster a climate of accountability, it is essential to impose rigorous sanctions against those responsible for embezzlement.

Currently, the freedom enjoyed by accused officials tarnishes President Tshisekedi's image and hinders his efforts to establish a government governed by the rule of law.

The DRC, rich in natural resources, should be on a path to sustainable economic development.

However, embezzlement scandals reveal disastrous management of public resources.

Recently exposed cases, such as those involving the Public Services Regulatory and Control Agency (ARSP), underscore the urgent need for government action.

According to correspondence from the presidential office, the Head of State was informed of alleged financial misconduct at the ARSP by the NGO ASSOMIP.Mu.

This latest scandal has rekindled the fears of a population already tired of broken promises of transparent governance.

Given this situation, it is imperative that the authorities act quickly to restore public trust and ensure proper management of public resources.

Embezzlement Cases: A Lack of Accountability

Examples of embezzlement are multiplying, illustrating a lack of accountability within the government.

The case of Matata Ponyo, whose parliamentary immunities were lifted, is emblematic.

Accused of embezzlement in the Bukanga Lonzo project, he embodies the impunity that seems to reign.

Similarly, the Minister of Justice, Constant Mutamba, is also suspected of embezzling funds intended for the construction of a large prison in Kisangani.

His admissions regarding errors in procurement are not enough to allay fears of unscrupulous management of public finances.

At the Ministry of the Environment, Eve Bazaiba is under fire, accused of embezzling $33 million intended for a forestry project involving the National Forestry Fund (FFN).

These accusations, if proven true, highlight the need for strict oversight of publicly funded projects.

A System in Crisis

The situation at the Ministry of Rural Development only exacerbates the situation.

Former Minister François Rubota, along with the former Minister of Finance, were accused of embezzling funds intended for the drilling and streetlight projects. Despite the evidence, these officials continue to enjoy a worrying level of impunity.

Prime Minister Judith Suminwa, aware of the gravity of the situation, has attempted to initiate measures to punish those involved in these embezzlements.

However, these efforts are often perceived as insufficient given the scale of the scandals.

It is crucial to establish a legislative framework to address these cases transparently and effectively.

Congolese citizens expect concrete action, not empty promises.

The fight against corruption must be a top priority if the DRC wishes to move forward on the path to development.

The governance challenge in the DRC is colossal, but not insurmountable.

With strong political will and concrete action, it is possible to turn things around.

Combating embezzlement is not only an ethical issue, but also an imperative for the development and well-being of the Congolese population.

A clear commitment from the authorities is necessary to restore citizens' trust and ensure a better future for the DRC.

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Goldenboy said:

Marksman … can’t find the post on X ….. who posted ?
Thanks.

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