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Frank

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Spikerama

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Hey wait what?!!

First it was $10 billion, which I'm sure was already an arbitrary figure made up by us on the back of a napkin. And now it's 50 billion? Lol
 
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j.l

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Hey wait what?!!

First it was $10 billion, which I'm sure was already an arbitrary figure made up by us on the back of a napkin. And now it's 50 billion? Lol
For you, special price, $50B.
 
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Frank

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From blood minerals to peace minerals!

In a pragmatic manner, strategy is generally defined as a set of ways, means, resources, steps and operations implemented to achieve one or more objectives, as adopted by the Democratic Republic of Congo with its President Félix Tshisekedi.

The DR Congolese have been talking about this word for some time now, appreciating in their own way the action of their leaders.

After thirty years of a deadly conflict, made up of massacres, rapes, pillaging and population displacements, the world is witnessing, dumbfounded, a real reversal of dynamics in the evolution of a crisis, of which few observers predicted such a surprising development in view of the forces present and the close protagonists involved.

The most decisive element was certainly the United Nations Security Council Resolution 2773.

This condemns the role of Rwanda and the M23 in the continuation of the crisis.

It demands respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the DRC, as well as the withdrawal of uninvited forces on Congolese soil.

There is also and above all a shower of unprecedented sanctions, both individual and collective, brandished by major global players to mark the international community's desire to finally stop the crisis and establish peace.

So many developments that the Congolese owe to one man, Félix Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo, whose commitment to the diplomatic option has often been ridiculed before leading today to results that have not failed to surprise both the most optimistic and the most skeptical observers.

Beyond the change in attitude of major players in the international community, what the Congolese have savored most in recent weeks is, in this dynamic, the new approach taken by the American administration under the leadership of President Donald Trump.

An approach that is expected, according to sources in Kinshasa and Washington, to be a historic "Minerals for Security" agreement that is set to profoundly change the relations of friendship and cooperation between the United States and the DR Congo.

But also to considerably reduce the influence of Rwanda, now designated as an aggressor, in the Great Lakes sub-region.

Basically, Washington should have access to the DRC's critical minerals and at the same time offer Kinshasa the tools likely to ensure it more security and stability, as well as infrastructure.

These critical minerals include nickel, cobalt, tantalum, germanium, uranium, lithium, niobium, etc.

While sources in the American capital report an invitation from the White House to President Tshisekedi in early April to confirm and conclude the "deal" between the two countries, it is believed that high-level discussions took place last week in the American capital between delegates from the two governments to define the broad outlines of the agreement.

In other words, Kinshasa needs more than ever to strengthen its security and infrastructure sector when Washington, increasingly outpaced by Beijing in the sector of future technologies, intends to supply itself directly at the source in a win-win formula that has continued to motivate the Congolese authorities.

The fact remains that the DRC must learn to put its shop in order and clean its Augean stables to deserve the trust of its partners.

Echoes from Washington in this case report the emphasis placed by the American administration on the fight against corruption and impunity as a brake on development, as well as on the end of embezzlement of public funds.

The ball is thus, ultimately, in the DRC's court.

Jules Alingete, the Head of the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF), valued by the Head of State must redouble his efforts, as must the Court of Auditors which began with an awareness campaign.


With this win-win deal, the minerals of blood will thus give way to the minerals of peace.

No one will be a loser.

Kigali must integrate this situation for true peace in the Great Lakes.

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Frank

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Hey wait what?!!

First it was $10 billion, which I'm sure was already an arbitrary figure made up by us on the back of a napkin. And now it's 50 billion? Lol
I reckon we should round it up (y)

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tolate

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One would assume nothing has changed for AVZ…!!!!
All this talk that the USA will come to the DRC aid..!
Personally I think it is just hype smoke and mirrors…imo
 

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Cool story dickhead. :D
 
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Thaz

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Hey wait what?!!

First it was $10 billion, which I'm sure was already an arbitrary figure made up by us on the back of a napkin. And now it's 50 billion? Lol
You don't like it? fine.

$250 billion.

p.s. i've been offline since beginning of feb.

What's been the go / latest updates.. or is it just status quo? i think i saw some brief mentions of a potential takeover? Were they just things coming out from the rumour ville?
 
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CHB

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You don't like it? fine.

$250 billion.

p.s. i've been offline since beginning of feb.

What's been the go / latest updates.. or is it just status quo? i think i saw some brief mentions of a potential takeover? Were they just things coming out from the rumour ville?
Status quo. Bring on the court cases
 
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Roon

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You don't like it? fine.

$250 billion.

p.s. i've been offline since beginning of feb.

What's been the go / latest updates.. or is it just status quo? i think i saw some brief mentions of a potential takeover? Were they just things coming out from the rumour ville?
Nothing appears to be going on, from what we can see publicly anyway. Just moving forward with the arbitration cases, which were at one point supposed to be a pressure tactic aimed at reaching a negotiated resolution, but now appear themselves to be our main hope of a positive outcome.

Could be wrong, but it seems DRC appear willing to go through the ICSID pain and see what the outcome is before trying to work out the best way forward for them from there. See if they lose first. Then see if they can ignore the ruling. Then if not, consider whether the penalty is manageable to perhaps try and get the Chinese to pay it (at a reduced, negotiated level) in exchange for control over Manono in totality. OR if (when) they lose and the penalty is very large, to then enter into negotiations with AVZ to accept some kind of terms. Possibly like, here take a licence for Roche Dure in exchange for agreeing to waive the penalty.

But yeah unless something changes in the next 6 months it seems like DRC are playing the 'lets wait and see what happens' game, rather than being smart and negotiating to settle the situation pre-ICSID ruling.
 
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Azzler

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Nothing appears to be going on, from what we can see publicly anyway. Just moving forward with the arbitration cases, which were at one point supposed to be a pressure tactic aimed at reaching a negotiated resolution, but now appear themselves to be our main hope of a positive outcome.

Could be wrong, but it seems DRC appear willing to go through the ICSID pain and see what the outcome is before trying to work out the best way forward for them from there. See if they lose first. Then see if they can ignore the ruling. Then if not, consider whether the penalty is manageable to perhaps try and get the Chinese to pay it (at a reduced, negotiated level) in exchange for control over Manono in totality. OR if (when) they lose and the penalty is very large, to then enter into negotiations with AVZ to accept some kind of terms. Possibly like, here take a licence for Roche Dure in exchange for agreeing to waive the penalty.

But yeah unless something changes in the next 6 months it seems like DRC are playing the 'lets wait and see what happens' game, rather than being smart and negotiating to settle the situation pre-ICSID ruling.
 
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Roon

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America has done little thus far in DRC to erode China's hold on critical mineral channels, and in the last few years hasn't stepped in to support AVZ in its battle. Why would they now? Even if this deal does go ahead, which I doubt, America is supposedly to be offered to opportunities to exploit and export minerals. Why would they aid a Chinese-backed and Chinese-partnered company like AVZ, whose critical mineral offtakes are all headed to China? How does that help them gain control of the flow of these resources?

I guess there is some potential that they could swoop in and prevent our need to partner up with CATH, to somehow support the Americans instead and partner up to send our uncontracted offtakes back to the states, but we're just a little fish in a big pond. They don't need us, and I'd be careful what we wish for. Also, I have strong doubts over what will come out of this DRC-US partnership offer in any case, given US failures in the past to counteract China in the DRC and its current unwillingness to get involved in external conflicts
 
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