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I couldn't think of a better name, sorry. I'll be happy to correct it if someone comes up with something better.
My point is this. There are many articles or contributions or opinions floating around out there in the infinite expanses of the WWW with dubious content, validity or truthfulness. So in my mind, this thread is for all the stuff where we don't need to explain ourselves or explain at length what's wrong with this or that article. So this thread is more of a repository where anyone can throw in anything of dubious value.

I see it more as a kind of rubbish dump. So feel free to throw anything in here that you want to put little or no effort into preparing. That way the other threads stay clean without losing any information.
 
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This should serve as an example. The title makes it clear what it's all about: questioning everything and fuelling opinion.
In this case, it reads like this:


"Transitioning to fossil-free industry - the green boom in Norrland

Multi-billion-dollar investments, tens of thousands of new jobs and promises of a greener future. A historic transition to fossil-free industry is taking place in northern Sweden. At the same time, the question marks are piling up. How green are the projects really? And where will everyone live?

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How will the environment be affected?
Much of the criticism concerns the impact on the environment. One example is Talga's planned graphite mine in Vittangi, which has brought the concept of green transition to a head. Sceptics argue that the mine will destroy high nature values and reindeer husbandry in favour of dubious environmental benefits.

Recently, the Institute for Economic Research has also released two reports questioning the profitability of green steel. According to these, there are major uncertainties about willingness to pay.
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Of course, this has nothing to do with proper journalism. Hence this new thread.
 

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Great thread.... "Fake News" or "Gaslighting" comes to mind. :)
 
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"The abyss of the energy transition"


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"No winning lottery to get a new mine in the municipality"
and many more over the years



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"At the same time, the question marks are piling up. How green are the projects? And where will everyone live?"
s. a.



Giving the cause a face. More will follow.
 

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"The municipality of Kiruna would be responsible for drawing up the necessary development plans, but put this process on hold in the spring. This is partly a reaction to the fact that Talga tried to speed up the process by contacting the government."*
https://polarkreisportal.de/fortschritte-und-blockaden-fuer-graphit-aus-vittangi


"The mine will accelerate the collapse of the Sami village. A living Sami culture will cease to exist in the area at some point, he writes."
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*It is the other way round and Kiruna S has refused to cooperate for two years without communicating this and has signalled otherwise. The article shows how some bend reality in their bubble.
 
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In Kiruna and Norrbotten, anti-mining activists are trying with new media presence to spread the narrative and stir up fear that mining will pollute the rivers and make entire regions uninhabitable.

This misinformation deliberately ignores the real issue at hand – climate protection, and in the most climate-friendly way possible.
In a world where open lies and fear-mongering have become the norm. You might think that one side is copying the other. They've 'all' gone mad.
 
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In Arbetarbladet a leader social democrat:

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One of Ebba Busch's predecessors in the colonial power wearing a pith helmet speaks to the Pygmy people during a visit to the Congo.
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What the people of Kiruna think, Ebba Busch does not give a damn. Like any colonial ruler in "Stockholmers in the mountains" clothes.
Councillor Mats Taaveniku is not impressed by the government. He tells DN:

"To say something like that when you know that the municipalities are already on their knees today shows their ignorance of our situation in Malmfälten."
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However, the fact is that it shows that Mrs Bush has no knowledge at all. And is also prejudiced.
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Our parents were treated like cattle in the mine and had to take jobs that destroyed their hearing and damaged their bodies in so many other ways. In the worst cases, the jobs led to death."


Any questions?
What a disgusting political smear campaign.
We must not forget who started all this with the green transition and Talga in Sweden. The very party that is now fighting against the government from the opposition.

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Arbetarbladet

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One of Ebba Busch's predecessors in the colonial power wearing a pith helmet speaks to the Pygmy people during a visit to the Congo.
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What the people of Kiruna think, Ebba Busch does not give a damn. Like any colonial ruler in "Stockholmers in the mountains" clothes.
Councillor Mats Taaveniku is not impressed by the government. He tells DN:

"To say something like that when you know that the municipalities are already on their knees today shows their ignorance of our situation in Malmfälten."
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However, the fact is that it shows that Mrs Bush has no knowledge at all. And is also prejudiced.
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Our parents were treated like cattle in the mine and had to take jobs that destroyed their hearing and damaged their bodies in so many other ways. In the worst cases, the jobs led to death."


Any questions?
What a disgusting political smear campaign.
We must not forget who started all this with the green transition and Talga in Sweden. The very party that is now fighting against the government from the opposition.

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Christ this guy is a whinging wanker! I've done underground work for twenty five years. Has it adversely affected my health? Yes it most likely has. I know my hearing isn't fantastic and I probably have a touch of silicosis like most I know who've been at it as long as me. Did anyone hold a fucken gun to my head and make me do it? No they bloody didn't. I knew what I was doing the whole way along.. making a trade off for money. And so too all the miners of Kiruna. Last time I checked Sweden was one of the most liberal democracy's in the world. Unless there is some extremely dark history of forced labor mining that has taken place in the area i'm unaware of I think this guy is completely full of shit and is simply a grifter who's trying to squeeze Talga for all he can get out of them. Fuck him.
 
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Christ this guy is a whinging wanker! I've done underground work for twenty five years. Has it adversely affected my health? Yes it most likely has. I know my hearing isn't fantastic and I probably have a touch of silicosis like most I know who've been at it as long as me. Did anyone hold a fucken gun to my head and make me do it? No they bloody didn't. I knew what I was doing the whole way along.. making a trade off for money. And so too all the miners of Kiruna. Last time I checked Sweden was one of the most liberal democracy's in the world. Unless there is some extremely dark history of forced labor mining that has taken place in the area i'm unaware of I think this guy is completely full of shit and is simply a grifter who's trying to squeeze Talga for all he can get out of them. Fuck him.
Thank you for your open and heartfelt words!
She is a leading social democrat.
The atmosphere is far too toxic for a good cause like this. It seems that they are exclusively concerned with an argument against the government. You can tell by the fact that the opponents have been deliberately ignoring certain facts for years.
They were in government long and often enough to solve these problems themselves. Now that they are in opposition, the tone is hysterical. And the absurd thing is, they are attacking the very policy they initiated themselves. I feel sorry for Talga, that they are being treated this way, that a good project is being torn apart and defamed. If they were in government, the problem would not exist. And if Talga were not a foreigner, it would not exist at all. This is unsurpassable in terms of absurdity.

And I'm also sorry that the party comrade who used to be a minister Eva Nordmark and is now a chairwoman of Talga is silent and is saying nothing about what is going on and calling on her party comrades to exercise moderation.

A smear campaign.
 
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Almost half of Kiruna's total debt is tied up in the bathhouse, where costs have exploded.

Newspaper!!
"This week's column in Folkbladet:

In a unique decision, the government overrules Kiruna municipality and decides that the Australian company Talga should be allowed to start a graphite mine in Vittangi.

When the minister responsible, Ebba Busch, talks about the people of Kiruna ‘getting jobs’, she does not know what she is talking about. Kiruna has the lowest unemployment rate in the country, with more than a thousand job vacancies. The housing shortage in Kiruna is also enormous, and the municipality is struggling with the high costs of moving the town centre.

If the mine goes ahead, it will be a ‘fly in, fly out’ with workers who will not live and pay municipal tax in the municipality. What will be left for the municipality when the mine has done its work, a hole in the ground and a smell of diesel?

When Kiruna's municipal councillor Mats Taaveniku (S) says that the government sees Norrland as a colony, one can only agree.

Imagine if it had been a mine in the Stockholm suburb of Täby, would the government have run over the municipality? Of course not, the government's core voters live there.

We have a Stockholm government, not a single minister is from northern Sweden.

The Moderates, like the Liberals, are distinctly Stockholm parties. They have their own ‘beard’ of power holders who hire and appoint each other as governors and national security advisors. In Stockholm, they live in symbiosis with Timbro and big business.

They don't care about northern Sweden, unless it's about delivering cheap electricity or raw materials for the benefit and profit of the head offices in Stockholm.

The government does not seem to have realised the enormous opportunities that the green transition can provide in northern Sweden. They are neglecting the jobs and investments of the future. Instead of investing in strong communities, they are pursuing a policy of exploitation, a colonial view of the north.

The opposite of the government's passivity and arrogance would be an active and long-term policy to capitalise on opportunities. Municipalities with large investments need help from the state.

Sweden has an internationally unique low mineral tax. While Finland introduces a mining tax, minerals are effectively free for mining companies in Sweden. The tax should be raised substantially and the refund should go to the region concerned. The same should also apply to wind and hydro power. Environmental requirements for the mining industry must be tightened, and sensitive nature and reindeer husbandry must be protected.

The state should provide better investment support for building new homes in municipalities such as Kiruna, but instead the government is abolishing the existing support.

Healthcare and other welfare services are being forced to make cuts, which has affected Malmfälten and Norrbotten in particular. For the government, it is more important to reduce taxes for their friends in Stockholm, those who have high incomes and own venture capital companies. It should be the other way round.

Northern Sweden has a neglected railway; north of Umeå, the single-track main line follows a route from the 19th century, and towns like Skellefteå and Piteå lack passenger services.

Yet the right-wingers put the brakes on railway expansion in the north as soon as they come to power.

Building a modern coastal railway in upper Norrland and double tracks on the Ore Line is absolutely necessary, not least for the mining industry.

The new jobs that can be created in the north with the production of green fuels, the mining of rare minerals and the electrification of steel production and mines are based on the realisation of the green transition.

This is also what climate change demands.
But instead, the government is slowing down the green transition, in Sweden and the EU.

This makes investors hesitate, and jobs end up elsewhere.

We need a government for all of Sweden."

YES to a FUTURE without mining


Do any of you understand that? Or are the minds up there partly contaminated by propaganda?
 
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Almost half of Kiruna's total debt is tied up in the bathhouse, where costs have exploded.

Newspaper!!
"This week's column in Folkbladet:

In a unique decision, the government overrules Kiruna municipality and decides that the Australian company Talga should be allowed to start a graphite mine in Vittangi.

When the minister responsible, Ebba Busch, talks about the people of Kiruna ‘getting jobs’, she does not know what she is talking about. Kiruna has the lowest unemployment rate in the country, with more than a thousand job vacancies. The housing shortage in Kiruna is also enormous, and the municipality is struggling with the high costs of moving the town centre.

If the mine goes ahead, it will be a ‘fly in, fly out’ with workers who will not live and pay municipal tax in the municipality. What will be left for the municipality when the mine has done its work, a hole in the ground and a smell of diesel?

When Kiruna's municipal councillor Mats Taaveniku (S) says that the government sees Norrland as a colony, one can only agree.

Imagine if it had been a mine in the Stockholm suburb of Täby, would the government have run over the municipality? Of course not, the government's core voters live there.

We have a Stockholm government, not a single minister is from northern Sweden.

The Moderates, like the Liberals, are distinctly Stockholm parties. They have their own ‘beard’ of power holders who hire and appoint each other as governors and national security advisors. In Stockholm, they live in symbiosis with Timbro and big business.

They don't care about northern Sweden, unless it's about delivering cheap electricity or raw materials for the benefit and profit of the head offices in Stockholm.

The government does not seem to have realised the enormous opportunities that the green transition can provide in northern Sweden. They are neglecting the jobs and investments of the future. Instead of investing in strong communities, they are pursuing a policy of exploitation, a colonial view of the north.

The opposite of the government's passivity and arrogance would be an active and long-term policy to capitalise on opportunities. Municipalities with large investments need help from the state.

Sweden has an internationally unique low mineral tax. While Finland introduces a mining tax, minerals are effectively free for mining companies in Sweden. The tax should be raised substantially and the refund should go to the region concerned. The same should also apply to wind and hydro power. Environmental requirements for the mining industry must be tightened, and sensitive nature and reindeer husbandry must be protected.

The state should provide better investment support for building new homes in municipalities such as Kiruna, but instead the government is abolishing the existing support.

Healthcare and other welfare services are being forced to make cuts, which has affected Malmfälten and Norrbotten in particular. For the government, it is more important to reduce taxes for their friends in Stockholm, those who have high incomes and own venture capital companies. It should be the other way round.

Northern Sweden has a neglected railway; north of Umeå, the single-track main line follows a route from the 19th century, and towns like Skellefteå and Piteå lack passenger services.

Yet the right-wingers put the brakes on railway expansion in the north as soon as they come to power.

Building a modern coastal railway in upper Norrland and double tracks on the Ore Line is absolutely necessary, not least for the mining industry.

The new jobs that can be created in the north with the production of green fuels, the mining of rare minerals and the electrification of steel production and mines are based on the realisation of the green transition.

This is also what climate change demands.
But instead, the government is slowing down the green transition, in Sweden and the EU.

This makes investors hesitate, and jobs end up elsewhere.

We need a government for all of Sweden."

YES to a FUTURE without mining


Do any of you understand that? Or are the minds up there partly contaminated by propaganda?
Fuck me swingin!
 
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Fuck me swingin!
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My translation tool is a bit confused
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Das ist doch der Hammer! => That's amazing!
Verdammte Axt! => Damn it!
Verdammt noch mal! => Damn it all!

Very entertaining!
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Shit's fucked - How fucked? Proper fucked - Fuck.
Couldn't give a rat's arse.
What a tosser.
Cracked the shits. Giving me the shits. Shit me to tears.
For fucks sake.
Chuck a ewie.

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Fuck me swinging
Ya jokin
Smoko time yet?
 
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