AVZ Discussion 2022

Winenut

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The way long standing paid up members are being treated/ reported/ moderated with contempt by admin since you know who arrived is absolutely appalling

Many contributors came here in the very early days, defecting from the crapper to get away from the trolls and have been the backbone of the forum for years

Now the trolls have migrated here after actually being banned from the crapper and are welcomed by admin, not community moderated or banished (despite multiple requests from many significant contributors) and now genuine long term members are being reported by the trolls and then threatened with warnings from admin

This is NOT the TSE I came here for

And for the record those who can't be named can suck my hairy b*#$b#g
 
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Winenut

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Report that you creepy weasel....
 
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cruiser51

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The way long standing paid up members are being treated/ reported/ moderated with contempt by admin since you know who arrived is absolutely appalling

Many contributors came here in the very early days, defecting from the crapper to get away from the trolls and have been the backbone of the forum for years

Now the trolls have migrated here after actually being banned from the crapper and are welcomed by admin, not community moderated or banished (despite multiple requests from many significant contributors) and now genuine long term members are being reported by the trolls and then threatened with warnings from admin

This is NOT the TSE I came here for

And for the record those who can't be named can suck my hairy b*#$b#g
I hope you don't mind, but i'll take a raincheck on that offer.

For our overseas contributors:

A raincheck is a a ticket given for later use when a sporting fixture or other outdoor event is interrupted or postponed by rain.
 
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wombat74

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https://x.com/blaisengo
@blaisengo

"How will they make Congo pay? I vaguely remember when it was Zaire, the State’s assets abroad were targeted. There was a bunch of vultures who specifically went after that government."

https://x.com/AugustCohen4
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August V

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"Several things. But the most penalizing would be to first limit dollar access to DRC state-owned/managed entities. Then to any global business that does business in DRC using the dollar. And the worst, cutting off all dollar access. Both legal under Global Magnitsky sanctions made possible by US law giving @USTreasury this power. Either would severely damage DRC's economy given dollar dependence. The threat of this should compel DRC to start paying."
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Or Maybe in the case of AVZ Minerals the threat may encourage the DRC Gov to Negotiate an outcome .

















 
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BEISHA

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I gotta say,the IGNORE function is a useful tool. Honestly, i have never used the function in my life, but have made a exception for the crapper turd ........works a charm, out of sight out of mind.

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To say i am disappointed that the requests of multiple long term paid up posters of TSE wanting the crapper turd to be tossed out of this forum ( considering he / she was responsible for the destruction of HC AVZ forum ) to have been completely ignored by our administrator is a pure understatement to say the least, dare i say it, brown paper bags must have infiltrated this forum..:rolleyes:

So a question, if folks are not prepared to use the IGNORE function and want to leave this forum ( which would be very disappointing ), what is to stop us creating a massive DM INVITATION ONLY discussion forum ?

Therefore making the public forum a ghost town ?

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Just a thought.
 
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I gotta say,the IGNORE function is a useful tool. Honestly, i have never used the function in my life, but have made a exception for the crapper turd ........works a charm, out of sight out of mind.

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To say i am disappointed that the requests of multiple long term paid up posters of TSE wanting the crapper turd to be tossed out of this forum ( considering he / she was responsible for the destruction of HC AVZ forum ) to have been completely ignored by our administrator is a pure understatement to say the least, dare i say it, brown paper bags must have infiltrated this forum..:rolleyes:

So a question, if folks are not prepared to use the IGNORE function and want to leave this forum ( which would be very disappointing ), what is to stop us creating a massive DM INVITATION ONLY discussion forum ?

Therefore making the public forum a ghost town ?

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Just a thought.
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Prod

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I gotta say,the IGNORE function is a useful tool. Honestly, i have never used the function in my life, but have made a exception for the crapper turd ........works a charm, out of sight out of mind.

View attachment 74550

To say i am disappointed that the requests of multiple long term paid up posters of TSE wanting the crapper turd to be tossed out of this forum ( considering he / she was responsible for the destruction of HC AVZ forum ) to have been completely ignored by our administrator is a pure understatement to say the least, dare i say it, brown paper bags must have infiltrated this forum..:rolleyes:

So a question, if folks are not prepared to use the IGNORE function and want to leave this forum ( which would be very disappointing ), what is to stop us creating a massive DM INVITATION ONLY discussion forum ?

Therefore making the public forum a ghost town ?

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Just a thought.
That sounds ok Beisha, but let's say we've got a group of 30 plus can you DM/PM all of them at once so that they all know what we're talking about or can you only talk to one at a time? I.T is not my strength, showing my age now.
 
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BEISHA

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That sounds ok Beisha, but let's say we've got a group of 30 plus can you DM/PM all of them at once so that they all know what we're talking about or can you only talk to one at a time? I.T is not my strength, showing my age now.
IT not my strength either , very old school, but i have been engaged in multiple chat DM before and when you post it reaches everyone concerned at one time, essentially it would be "business as usual " but the question i have is whats the limit on how many posters can get involved ?
 
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ptlas

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IT not my strength either , very old school, but i have been engaged in multiple chat DM before and when you post it reaches everyone concerned at one time, essentially it would be "business as usual " but the question i have is whats the limit on how many posters can get involved ?
I'm on a discord thread with a number of ex- Hot Crappers, who left because of an unrelenting troll that moderators did nothing about.

I believe that there is no limit to the number of members on the thread.

It's got some really useful functions, the main man has arranged apps to automatically post info.

Maybe the details of the thread could be shared by DM.

What I've got no idea about is how to set it up.

Anyone...?
 
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Xerof

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So I have just put the AVZ discussion 2023 THREAD on Ignore. It no longer appears. With the shit stain on ignore, it’s business as usual for me on the main thread

I’m not in favour of scurrying away to multiple DM. We should continue to advocate for @zeebot to rid this place of the toxicity.

If we cannot convince him to follow the tribe’s position then let’s look at invite only on either discord or signal

I’m prepared to wait until after NY to make a decision on whether I cancel my membership
 
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lellep

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I'm on a discord thread with a number of ex- Hot Crappers, who left because of an unrelenting troll that moderators did nothing about.

I believe that there is no limit to the number of members on the thread.

It's got some really useful functions, the main man has arranged apps to automatically post info.

Maybe the details of the thread could be shared by DM.

What I've got no idea about is how to set it up.

Anyone...?
If it is a discord you want, then I can set it up!
 
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ptlas

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If it is a discord you want, then I can set it up!
Maybe if folks like the @lellep post it will give an indication of the interest.

Though I suggest any action should be after New Year.
 
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Jazz

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This behind a paywall for me. Appreciate if someone could 12ft it and post it in here and here, for the database
https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/reports-on-zijin-minings-violations.259614/

Zijin Mining’s WA subsidiary Norton Gold Fields to probe corruption claims​

Norton Gold Fields says it has brought in lawyers to examine allegations some of its employees are extracting side payments from WA businesses, following an investigation by The West Australian.
The alleged racket centres on contractors and suppliers being coerced into paying certain Norton staff off the books to keep doing business with the Chinese company.
The West has sighted and verified a $47,540 invoice for “project planning, resources co-ordination and administration assistance” paid by one of the impacted contractors to a private entity owned by a current Norton employee, who for legal reasons cannot be named.
A Norton Gold Fields spokeswoman on December 11 said the company is taking the allegations “extremely seriously” following queries by The West and “has taken immediate action” after its preliminary assessment of the claims.
“Norton has engaged law firm HFW Australia to fully investigate the allegations which have been made against a small number of employees,” she said.
“Norton’s management want to make it clear that the company in no way tolerates or condones any type of inappropriate conduct by employees.
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“Norton has a clear anti-corruption policy in place, and we encourage any employee, contractor or supplier who has any knowledge of these allegations to immediately contact the external investigators.”
The West understands Norton is sending out letters to its contractors and suppliers asking them to contact HFW if they have any information regarding the allegations, which stretch over a number of years.
“Anyone who comes forward can remain anonymous and will be afforded the protection of Norton’s whistleblower policy,” the spokeswoman said.
“We anticipate the independent investigators will take around three weeks to interview witnesses, review documents and make evidence-based findings.
“Norton wants to assure all of our stakeholders that the company will take decisive action if any of the allegations are substantiated.”
Contractors and suppliers have been afraid of facing prosecution for being complicit in the alleged racket if they go through the courts to try and claw their money back, according to Dean Logan.
Mr Logan, who works as an adviser to small and medium-sized firms, said he has clients caught up in the allegations.
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Dean Logan Yes
Norton is a subsidiary of Zijin Mining Group, China’s largest non-coal mining company, and has two main local gold mining hubs in WA — Paddington and Binduli.
The Paddington mine and mill is Norton’s flagship operation, while Binduli’s existence revolves around processing low-grade ores through the heap leaching technique.
Those two operations are both near Kalgoorlie and combined produce about 200,000 ounces of gold each year.
“If you’re thinking about taking work with Norton, be warned,” Mr Logan said.
“It all starts above board and ‘matey’, but once the contractor has mobilised and settled in, that’s when some of these Norton employees start asking for cash.”
He said the affected businesses are reticent to pull out after sinking substantial time and capital to get workers and equipment on site.
“Yes, contractors make the mistake of getting caught up in it . . . but it starts off at 3 per cent of the invoice value then it’s ratcheted up,” he said.
“When the pressure gets too much and you push back, Norton prosecute you for the most trivial site matter, stand you down and dispute contract or progress payments.
“Then they rinse and repeat with a new contractor.”
Two other local business not connected to Mr Logan have told The West they were caught up in a similar scheme with Norton.
“These Norton guys know contractors are unwilling to go to court, it’s designed this way from the very start,” Mr Logan said.
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Norton Gold Fields' Paddinton operation north of Kalgoorlie. Yes
“I’ve helped one client get back $400,000 of the $1.2 million they were owed. Contractors have to take the offer and just walk away.”
In October, the low-profile Norton lodged its 2023 accounts to the Australian Securities and Investments Commission, revealing a bottom-line loss of $44.3m for the year despite a strong gold price.
Norton’s borrowings with related party Gold Mountain International Mining jumped from $460.4m to $581.9m over the year, and interest payments on the debt nearly doubled from $11.4m to $21.6m.
Norton said the extra debt was used to fund its Binduli North heap leach project, which was finished in 2022.
Costs for “maintenance” surging from $24.8m to $66.4m was another stand-out balance sheet line item, as expenses rose across the board.
 
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Hudnut

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Be a shame to lose this place because of one poster.
I'd reckon moving from an open forum to a "more exclusive" one would hide a lot of the fact checking and truthful info that is made available here.
Exactly what the interloper(s) aim to do, in fact. Fracturing the shareholder base and communications.

Question is, if a certain poster is removed there is a high probability another will pop up in place.
What is the solution then if this is ongoing?

I'd say as long as people use the ignore button and stop replying, all will be ok.

Besides the crap moderating on HC, the main issue there is people can't help themselves and keep responding to trolls.
Then the rest who have them on ignore still get the thread clogged up with the responses.
 
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The way long standing paid up members are being treated/ reported/ moderated with contempt by admin since you know who arrived is absolutely appalling

Many contributors came here in the very early days, defecting from the crapper to get away from the trolls and have been the backbone of the forum for years

Now the trolls have migrated here after actually being banned from the crapper and are welcomed by admin, not community moderated or banished (despite multiple requests from many significant contributors) and now genuine long term members are being reported by the trolls and then threatened with warnings from admin

This is NOT the TSE I came here for

And for the record those who can't be named can suck my hairy b*#$b#g
The word you're looking for is ballsack I believe , but also pass
 
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cruiser51

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The beauty of this forum was supposed to be "the (community) majority speaks".

It is obvious that for some fucked up reason that is not working and THAT will be the end of this place.
 
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