AVZ Discussion 2022

[JNRB]

It was mentioned a couple of times during the AGM by Nigel that the 3 months extension had the potential to get a squabble going between the current bidders (3 plus the tight asses who dropped the first offer)… he also stated a few times that there was about $10m left from CATH was it?? I think the 3 months is an opportunity to raid the ash tray and find a few more quid from support groups to fend off our very own ASIC clown show and the likes of…. Could also be the BODs ensuring they have enough cash to see them/us through to the “4-6 months from an accepted offer”

My wondering...
- actively engaging with Icsid = cash burn
- taking more funds from CATH = locking them further in to the project.
- - so the pause is a way to say 'ok weve delayed it, but here's your window to do a deal USA because else we can and will progress our arrangements with CATH/China'

 

[Hodlandwin69]

So is CATH getting the 30% of Green Lithium Holdings? I thought that was dependent on acquiring the ML, but sounds like the ML will be issued to a US company, i.e whoever buys it

 

[wombat74]

My wondering...
- actively engaging with Icsid = cash burn
- taking more funds from CATH = locking them further in to the project.
- - so the pause is a way to say 'ok weve delayed it, but here's your window to do a deal USA because else we can and will progress our arrangements with CATH/China'

Cath are sitting pretty . And Pei has approx 400mil shares . Box seat win / win either way .

 

[Sangster]

So is CATH getting the 30% of Green Lithium Holdings? I thought that was dependent on acquiring the ML, but sounds like the ML will be issued to a US company, i.e whoever buys it

I suspect we're better of with the licence being issued to the company that buys it provided the value isn't affected by this. CATH we're only supposed to get 30% if they secured the licence for us but this hasn't happened so they have no right to the 30%. However they have assisted with funding so we owe them something, just not as much as that.

 

[Sangster]

I suspect we're better of with the licence being issued to the company that buys it provided the value isn't affected by this. CATH we're only supposed to get 30% if they secured the licence for us but this hasn't happened so they have no right to the 30%. However they have assisted with funding so we owe them something, just not as much as that.

I should add that if our rights to 49% of the processing facilities are maintained as part of the final deal then it may still be warranted to forego the 30% of our mine site. Whatever the case we should deal with CATH honourably. They may have voted against the board previously but Mr Pei has the same rights to an independent opinion as the rest of us do.

 

[Jacob Kiraz]

I should add that if our rights to 49% of the processing facilities are maintained as part of the final deal then it may still be warranted to forego the 30% of our mine site. Whatever the case we should deal with CATH honourably. They may have voted against the board previously but Mr Pei has the same rights to an independent opinion as the rest of us do.

Whats a fair price to accept 60 cents a share, 90 cents etc

 

[Spikerama]

Whats a fair price to accept 60 cents a share, 90 cents etc

A fair price for $AVZ is subjective for every buyer and every seller. So it's probably better to just shut up and stop throwing random prices around and leave it to the grown ups.

But as a response to your arbitrary low ball dart throw, here's a more reasoned and calculated benchmark.

avz-website

ihqdurbg.manus.space

 

[Spikerama]

That $13.79 per share was back in May Spike, lithium has gone up since then

I was being conservative mate.

 

[SilentOne]

Nothing like a quality build.......

https://x.com/africatodayMG/status/1994753342417850590?s=20

 

[Flight996]

Nothing like a quality build.......

https://x.com/africatodayMG/status/1994753342417850590?s=20

Certified by the Victorian Building and Plumbing Commission as compliant with National Construction Code.

 

[Scoota30]

A fair price for $AVZ is subjective for every buyer and every seller. So it's probably better to just shut up and stop throwing random prices around and leave it to the grown ups.

But as a response to your arbitrary low ball dart throw, here's a more reasoned and calculated benchmark.

avz-website

ihqdurbg.manus.space

Hey Spike, this website is awesome. To remove any doubt from potential buyers though, it may pay to show that all figures are in USD so the conservative figure is $13.79 USD per share

 

[Sangster]

Whats a fair price to accept 60 cents a share, 90 cents etc

The project has been fairly valued in our ICSID claim at roughly $10B plus additional compensation for what we've been put through. So the meme of $12B (Fuck Zijin) holds true in my opinion.

Another way to look at it is that it's not fair for anyone who legitimately invested to lose money. Therefore fair value sits north of our all time high plus a premium to compensate for everything we've been put through. This value would be below the ICSID claim leaving room for a buyer to profit.

I would not consider anything lower than all time high plus compensation as fair value. However I would accept payment in other forms, such as shares in another company or a new joint venture. So a combination of upfront cash and a stake in the processing facilities could be fair value.

But that's just my point of view and I will listen if the board recommends a reasonable path.

 

[Sangster]

Nothing like a quality build.......

https://x.com/africatodayMG/status/1994753342417850590?s=20

If that’s a $2M bridge my neighbour built a $30M tool shed.

Felix's family should be strung up for their crimes.

 

[Winenut]

I suspect we're better off with the licence being issued to the company that buys it provided the value isn't affected by this. CATH we're only supposed to get 30% if they secured the licence for us but this hasn't happened so they have no right to the 30%. However they have assisted with funding so we owe them something, just not as much as that.

I also felt this.

Why give CATH another 5 or 6% of a 10+billion dollar resource for providing say $10m additional funding for ongoing legal cases???

Surely we could get a better funding deal than that from somewhere

 

[Hudnut]

I suspect we're better of with the licence being issued to the company that buys it provided the value isn't affected by this. CATH we're only supposed to get 30% if they secured the licence for us but this hasn't happened so they have no right to the 30%. However they have assisted with funding so we owe them something, just not as much as that.

We do owe them something. It's bad enough having the North stolen and the South subject to a tug of war.
I'm not in the mood to be giving shit way for free as well.
They can get the quite reasonable interest rate they negotiated.

 

[JNRB]

Hey Spike, this website is awesome. To remove any doubt from potential buyers though, it may pay to show that all figures are in USD so the conservative figure is $13.79 USD per share

Is it? Because it says "current price 0.78" - which is AUD where we stopped trading right?
I didnt find anything on the aite that clarified

 

[Wingy]

Nothing like a quality build.......

https://x.com/africatodayMG/status/1994753342417850590?s=20

Pity the Fat guy wasn't on it

 

[Ancient]

I also felt this.

Why give CATH another 5 or 6% of a 10+billion dollar resource for providing say $10m additional funding for ongoing legal cases???

Surely we could get a better funding deal than that from somewhere

I wasnt clear in my earlier post. I dont mean that we will give away a portion for that small amount I mean they could change the conditions for the investment by cath (I also meant cath not catl).. so something like:

CATH will fund and operate the mine and chemical production if DRC assigns the licence potentially billions in investment. And/or help avz pursue legal claim against DRC if they dont. If settlement or cost award happens catl is also up for some percentage of the pay out. Avz lays the cards on the table with this plan with catl and gives a date by which it will happen. Forces US to have it done by the date?

Something like that..

 

[Uglybob]

A fair price for $AVZ is subjective for every buyer and every seller. So it's probably better to just shut up and stop throwing random prices around and leave it to the grown ups.

But as a response to your arbitrary low ball dart throw, here's a more reasoned and calculated benchmark.

avz-website

ihqdurbg.manus.space

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Fyi, Karoline Levitt said that on Thursday Rwanda and DRC will sign the peace AND ECONOMIC agreement. (Not that AVZ depends on the agreements, but does derisk for US companies, but probably bad for china/cath)