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"Neuromorphic computing inspired by the brain's really really remarkable energy efficiency could fundamentally transform how AI operates.

It presents a promising and exciting opportunity to support both large scale and edge AI, and edge AI I think is going to be something that that we're going to have to think about much more.

Its brain inspired design could help AI systems to become more adaptive, more energy efficient. And all of this is especially important as models become bigger and more complex and the questions we ask of computing and of AI become more complicated, more difficult, bigger data sets.

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@Bravo @Neuromorphia Yea in that case there shouldn't be any IP problem with Brainchip owning PLEIADES. And I wouldn't read too much into Rudy presenting this work in conferences (from an IP perspective at least), except for the unpleasant reminder that both brains behind the TENNs series of products are no longer with Brainchip. This would include TENNs eye, Pleiades, aTENNuate speech enhancement, Centaurus quantum speedup, etc.

Of course, it is totally possible whoever remaining at Brainchip is smart enough to continue this line of work. But may be hard to tell until there is a concrete patent filing or publication in top AI conferences for TENNs, which we have yet to seen without Olivier or Rudy. So does TENNs even have a future at Brainchip, or would the company take another 5 years pivoting to a new product line? "Could be, who knows?" as eloquently remarked by Dr. Tony Lewis ..
I think people are jumping the gun here, or you might try to sow fear amongst investors? I am not sure what you are trying to achieve here?

TENNs are mentioned on BRN webpages as today (see below), so just because those 2 guys are not there anymore means it will have any impact.

Engineers are logging their work down for others in the company to see, so anyone with expertise in this field can carry on where they left, it's not like they have done a Nobel Prize worthy discovery, is it?

Those 2 guys are not gods, O made problems and got 5 cold toes in the ass. R wanted to work for N and left. And that's that, end of story!

 
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@Bravo @Neuromorphia Yea in that case there shouldn't be any IP problem with Brainchip owning PLEIADES. And I wouldn't read too much into Rudy presenting this work in conferences (from an IP perspective at least), except for the unpleasant reminder that both brains behind the TENNs series of products are no longer with Brainchip. This would include TENNs eye, Pleiades, aTENNuate speech enhancement, Centaurus quantum speedup, etc.

Of course, it is totally possible whoever remaining at Brainchip is smart enough to continue this line of work. But may be hard to tell until there is a concrete patent filing or publication in top AI conferences for TENNs, which we have yet to seen without Olivier or Rudy. So does TENNs even have a future at Brainchip, or would the company take another 5 years pivoting to a new product line? "Could be, who knows?" as eloquently remarked by Dr. Tony Lewis ..
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I think people are jumping the gun here, or you might try to sow fear amongst investors? I am not sure what you are trying to achieve here?

TENNs are mentioned on BRN webpages as today (see below), so just because those 2 guys are not there anymore means it will have any impact.

Engineers are logging their work down for others in the company to see, so anyone with expertise in this field can carry on where they left, it's not like they have done a Nobel Prize worthy discovery, is it?

Those 2 guys are not gods, O made problems and got 5 cold toes in the ass. R wanted to work for N and left. And that's that, end of story!

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I think people are jumping the gun here, or you might try to sow fear amongst investors? I am not sure what you are trying to achieve here?

TENNs are mentioned on BRN webpages as today (see below), so just because those 2 guys are not there anymore means it will have any impact.

Engineers are logging their work down for others in the company to see, so anyone with expertise in this field can carry on where they left, it's not like they have done a Nobel Prize worthy discovery, is it?

Those 2 guys are not gods, O made problems and got 5 cold toes in the ass. R wanted to work for N and left. And that's that, end of story!

It doesn't exactly take a whole lot of engineering skill to mention a word on a webpage, does it? Nor does it take a genius to market a "million-watt" power eye tracking model

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O and R are not gods, but I doubt Brainchip can just easily hire "experts in the field" off the street either. Maybe try a deep research with ChatGPT to see whoever left really have the "expertise". And I'm talking about engineers who do actual work, not yappers
 
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Note that Rudy Pei didn’t unambiguously reply to Philip Dodge with “Yes, this IP belongs to BrainChip” either, so things might actually not be as straightforward as simply inferring the IP must belong to BrainChip because Rudy Pei and Olivier Coenen were both BrainChip employees at the time of the PLEIADES paper’s first publication. It might just turn out to be a little more complicated than that.


One thing seems pretty obvious to me: Ever since Rudy Pei left for NVIDIA, he has been trying to distance himself from BrainChip. He still expresses his appreciation for the work of some of his former colleagues, whose LinkedIn posts he continues to like, but he evidently doesn’t want his own work done over the past few years automatically be associated with his former employer, with which he seems to have had some sort of fall-out.


Have a look at the following picture from the ICLR Conference in Singapore (24 - 28 April 2025), which he posted on LinkedIn at the time. While the conference paper published on 9 April 2025 (https://arxiv.org/pdf/2501.13230) still identifies him as someone who worked for BrainChip during this research…

“Published as a conference paper at ICLR 2025

LET SSMS BE CONVNETS: STATE-SPACE MODELING WITH OPTIMAL TENSOR CONTRACTIONS
Yan Ru Pei
Brainchip Inc.
Laguna Hills, CA 92653, USA
yanrpei@gmail.com


… the photo of him posing in front of the conference poster in Singapore two to three weeks later is IMO testament to Rudy Pei’s emotions “post-divorce” so to say: He made an effort to put stickers over what I assume would have revealed where he had been working at the time of his research:


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Neither did he mention his previous employer during this video presentation of “Centaurus: Let SSMs be ConvNets (ICLR 2025 spotlight)”:





I have never believed Rudy Pei was poached by NVIDIA. Instead, I think he was no longer happy at BrainChip (the why is of course speculation) and actively reached out to look for a new job - also cf the info “LinkedIn helped me to get this job”, and found it with the company he had always dreamed working for.

And it is highly likely no coincidence that he started his new job with NVIDIA just after the Chinese New Year holidays (which this calendar year fell on 29 and 30 January) - after all, the Lunar New Year is considered an auspicious time for new beginnings.


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The mysterious disappearance of various “TENNs” repositories from BrainChip’s GitHub account sometime in February or during the first days of March also suggests to me that this IP issue may be more complicated than it seems at first glance:


On 2 February, I had posted about my discovery of TENNs-Eyes on BrainChip’s GitHub:

https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/brn-discussion-ongoing.1/post-449579


A month later, I noticed all the TENNs model repositories previously found there had disappeared:

https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/brn-discussion-ongoing.1/post-452508

“Now here comes the weird thing: When I just revisited BrainChip’s GitHub page (https://github.com/Brainchip-Inc), I noticed that not only has TENNs-Eye disappeared, but so have aTENNuate, TENNs-PLEIADES and Centaurus. Of the 14 repositories (see my 2 February screenshot), four have simply vanished into thin air, it seems… 🤔

[…] Is there possibly any connection with Rudy Pei’s departure, given he was instrumental in leading the R&D for the TENNs model family? (Although I’d expect any rights would actually have been assigned to BrainChip, his former employer?)

A read-only archived TENNs-Eye repository can still be found on his GitHub page. It says the repository has been moved to Brainchip-Inc/TENNs-Eye (presumably in September 2024, when the repository got archived), but that is now an empty link (Error 404).”





It’s actually quite telling to compare the two different versions of the PLEIADES paper - the one dated 31 May 2024 (when both authors were still BrainChip employees, but even then Rudy Pei preferred to use his private email address rather than his work email address) and the recently updated one, dated 24 October 2025 (after Olivier Coenen had been sacked for reasons unknown to us):


In the earlier version of the paper, the title says “TENNs-PLEIADES” and the abstract’s first sentence also refers to the TENNs architecture. As does another sentence in the Introduction, which further mentions the broader class of networks called TENNs were developed by BrainChip Inc.

This reference to TENNs & BrainChip was completely dropped in the updated October 2025 version. The only remaining reference to the researchers’ former employer can be found in a small footnote saying “Work done while at BrainChip Inc”.



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The other striking omission in the October 2025 version is of Course who aT BrainChip nO longer gets named under “Acknowledgement(s)” - see for yourself…

Hi Frangipani,

Your post makes a lot of assumptions about internal matters that none of us can possibly know. And I personally question the motives behind it.

From what I’ve read of your posts, you seem to have a bit of a love / hate relationship with BrainChip.

Speculating about past employees personal situations at BrainChip or suggesting bad faith from BrainChip or its former staff isn’t appropriate for an open forum. It looks like an attempt to cast the company in a negative light, rather than add anything factual.

It’s quite likely that Rudy Pei cannot confirm IP now that he’s at NVIDIA. That’s normal NDA behaviour as others have suggested, not evidence of drama. And public repositories move or go private for a range of reasons (patents, productisation, compliance). That alone doesn’t indicate an IP dispute.

To all the other readers out there, believe what you like, but I’d take Frangipani’s post with a grain of salt and a serious question mark over the intentions behind it.
 
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It doesn't exactly take a whole lot of engineering skill to mention a word on a webpage, does it? Nor does it take a genius to market a "million-watt" power eye tracking model

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O and R are not gods, but I doubt Brainchip can just easily hire "experts in the field" off the street either. Maybe try a deep research with ChatGPT to see whoever left really have the "expertise". And I'm talking about engineers who do actual work, not yappers
Nope, I am not the one who is worried, you are, so go ahead, knock yourself out!

Why are we suddenly discussing some uninteresting ex employees?

You and Frangipani??

Hi Frangipani,

Your post makes a lot of assumptions about internal matters that none of us can possibly know. And I personally question the motives behind it.

From what I’ve read of your posts, you seem to have a bit of a love / hate relationship with BrainChip.

Speculating about past employees personal situations at BrainChip or suggesting bad faith from BrainChip or its former staff isn’t appropriate for an open forum. It looks like an attempt to cast the company in a negative light, rather than add anything factual.

It’s quite likely that Rudy Pei cannot confirm IP now that he’s at NVIDIA. That’s normal NDA behaviour as others have suggested, not evidence of drama. And public repositories move or go private for a range of reasons (patents, productisation, compliance). That alone doesn’t indicate an IP dispute.

To all the other readers out there, believe what you like, but I’d take Frangipani’s post with a grain of salt and a serious question mark over the intentions behind it.

Exactly (y)

I hope we can stop posting about what them ex BRN people are doing and what they had for breakfast, 99.9% on here don't care.
 
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It doesn't exactly take a whole lot of engineering skill to mention a word on a webpage, does it? Nor does it take a genius to market a "million-watt" power eye tracking model

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O and R are not gods, but I doubt Brainchip can just easily hire "experts in the field" off the street either. Maybe try a deep research with ChatGPT to see whoever left really have the "expertise". And I'm talking about engineers who do actual work, not yappers
Anyone want to guess who this is

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Ok people with now over 6% shorts open and the graph going straight up in the air over the last week, that’s over 200million shorts open. Think it might be time for the ASIC/ASX/Management look into WHO is holding these shorts and have we actually got millions of NAKED shorts open (HIGHLY ILLEGAL AS WE ALL KNOW)Like there ain’t many ie it would have to be one of the top 20 shareholders lending these shorts out. Or do we have.great big filthy rat in amounts our top 20.
 
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It is obvious something is amiss with the amount of shorts open. Either they are fake shorts to make retail think that the sky is fall, which would make sense and explain the shares trading from one hand to the other manipulation. I say fake as when the owner of the shares shorts his own shares to give the illusion that their is a huge short position open to scare retail into selling. Hmmmmm
 
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Now may sound far fetched but in a takeover situation it would cost less to push the shareprice down by shorting action to $0.20 and keep it their starving the company of any chance of raising funds without dilution which aids their cause,than let it explode and pay $2-4/ share. So loose 100million to save 400 million if the price was to rise expeditiously. Food for thought.
 
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According to Weebit Nano CEO Coby Hanoch, his company and BrainChip were in discussions “on multiple fronts” at the time of a March 2025 Weebit Nano Retail Investor Briefing. This upcoming session at embedded world North America 2025 next week titled “Neuromorphic Computing: A Primer on the Path to Ultra-Efficient AI” could shed some light on what our two companies have been chatting about:



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It is obvious something is amiss with the amount of shorts open. Either they are fake shorts to make retail think that the sky is fall, which would make sense and explain the shares trading from one hand to the other manipulation. I say fake as when the owner of the shares shorts his own shares to give the illusion that their is a huge short position open to scare retail into selling. Hmmmmm
There’s no need trying put a spin on things and defend your actions in this way

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You assumed incorrectly as the builder of this site would know that I am not a shorter by my email address just a average investor in a outback country town,and I will be anti management for the millions they have lost mums and dad investors by the way they have hidden/delayed announcing and often I think illegally announcements that should have been made to the stock exchange that would easily show revenue incoming in the future as other companies have done. Think of all the mums and dads hard earned that has been lost by them not being able to stay long, and we’re forced to sell over the last three years. I am lucky as my finiancial position has allowed me to double down, but this announcing shit on ten different sites leaving hints and making us make assumptions as to what is happening is absolute bullshit. I don’t give a rats fannypack as to dot joiners and you happy clappers I do on the other hand like to make management accountable. I will make millions otherwise I wouldn’t of purchased this stock, buy even if I did I would still be anti management for the contempt they have shown us shareholders.
 
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You assumed incorrectly as the builder of this site would know that I am not a shorter by my email address just a average investor in a outback country town,and I will be anti management for the millions they have lost mums and dad investors by the way they have hidden/delayed announcing and often I think illegally announcements that should have been made to the stock exchange that would easily show revenue incoming in the future as other companies have done. Think of all the mums and dads hard earned that has been lost by them not being able to stay long, and we’re forced to sell over the last three years. I am lucky as my finiancial position has allowed me to double down, but this announcing shit on ten different sites leaving hints and making us make assumptions as to what is happening is absolute bullshit. I don’t give a rats fannypack as to dot joiners and you happy clappers I do on the other hand like to make management accountable. I will make millions otherwise I wouldn’t of purchased this stock, buy even if I did I would still be anti management for the contempt they have shown us shareholders.
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