AVZ Discussion 2022
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A, B & C.
But not just our old enemies.
As I've said before, China can open a mine adjacent to what remains of AVZ but US needs to provide protection for RD. WHY????
US has been awake to what's going down here since long before they ever invested in Lobito 10 million years ago.
I'm not going to go on, but there is much more that we all know that screams conspiracy. But I will say that none of these events are unrelated to the rest of this shit.
Nothing happens in isolation.
US and KoBold are not our mates or saviours. Peeps need to stop hoping that they are.
They are in it for themselves.
Just like YOU
I have no more ideas than anyone else here what the real events are. But the number of potential permutations are astronomical.
For that reason, I take nothing at face value.
Bizniz eez bizniz.
Six weeks ago, I said that this will run and run. The monstrous lithium, tin & tantalum deposits make it impossible for anyone to give up without the fight of their lives.
I still don't see a successful resolution anytime soon for the same reasons.
Hopefully, I'm wrong, but the rumour mill would suggest otherwise, and I have learned to believe negative rumours before positive ones.
jeeeezuz.......
you would think after literally YEARS of this saga people would have a bit more patience. But no, a few delays, a few cynically structured scenarios from Wombat, and people are pooping themselves again.
OPTION E
THINGS ARE STILL MOVING IT JUST TAKES SOME TIME.
- DRC and Rwanda have already singed a framework for a peace deal. That is a HUGE step.
- We know discussions are continuing around the minerals/commercial framework agreements to be signed with USA.
- USA is NOT going to get fkd around on this.
- KoBold has agreed to a framework to buy AVZ, contingent on their entrance to the DRC being backed up by the above minerals/commercial framework between USA and DRC.
No one has any information (that's been shared) that indicates anything to the contrary.
@wombat74
Their silence means nothing other than they're more patient than you are.
you would think after literally YEARS of this saga people would have a bit more patience. But no, a few delays, a few cynically structured scenarios from Wombat, and people are pooping themselves again.
OPTION E
THINGS ARE STILL MOVING IT JUST TAKES SOME TIME.
- DRC and Rwanda have already singed a framework for a peace deal. That is a HUGE step.
- We know discussions are continuing around the minerals/commercial framework agreements to be signed with USA.
- USA is NOT going to get fkd around on this.
- KoBold has agreed to a framework to buy AVZ, contingent on their entrance to the DRC being backed up by the above minerals/commercial framework between USA and DRC.
No one has any information (that's been shared) that indicates anything to the contrary.
@wombat74
Tell me wombat why is it you think that Kobold should have made any sort of public announcement at this stage?
Their silence means nothing other than they're more patient than you are.
PutUsernameHere
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Fair call, but that was years when the most constant news we were getting was "suspension extended" for the most part, and anything else was few and far between. Now we're getting proposed/actual dates of things happening, but it's largely opaque on any detail. Can't blame human nature for getting a little ancy when after all these years we're seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. No one's sure if its a pin hole or a king's entrance. It's gambler's folly with information, now that I've had some, I want MORE
I can't and don't blame human nature,Fair call, but that was years when the most constant news we were getting was "suspension extended" for the most part, and anything else was few and far between. Now we're getting proposed/actual dates of things happening, but it's largely opaque on any detail. Can't blame human nature for getting a little ancy when after all these years we're seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. No one's sure if its a pin hole or a king's entrance. It's gambler's folly with information, now that I've had some, I want MORE
But can and do blame posters like wombat for exploiting that nature by l constantly presenting a selectively negative set of speculative scenarios
Go easy mate . The point I was making is Kobold remaining silent is encouraging . Not f--king negative . I posted previously that rather than focusing on the negative news (or no news ) from AVZ we should keep an eye on what Kobold is doing /saying . That the news flow will probably come from Kobold and not AVZ .Kobold staying quiet to me is positive . OK ?
Dave Evans
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I keep private records these days. Here’s a nice article from last month to compliment yours @bloke383
01/06/2025
High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime
Author: Yousuf Rwaka2025-06-01
The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) stands out as one of the most corrupt and poor countries worldwide. President Felix Tshisekedi’s family and inner circle are embezzling national resources while the Congolese suffer from hunger and poor infrastructure in all aspects of life.
Congolese Minister of Justice Constant Mutamba is now one of the targets of the very system he oversees. He is under investigation for embezzlement and public funds mismanagement.
A request for investigation was made by the Attorney General to the National Assembly to launch a judicial investigation on Mutamba, who is accused of embezzling USD 39 million intended for the construction of a prison in Kisangani, Tshopo province.
“The National Assembly has authorized the Attorney General of the Court of Cassation to initiate legal proceedings against the Minister of Justice. He was forced to submit his resignation to Prime Minister Judith Suminwa,” said a source from Kinshasa.
For the minister of justice to be subjected to prosecution, the National Assembly was required to lift his immunity. It is unclear whether Tshisekedi will allow fair legal proceedings against Mutamba’s crimes, as the latter has been the president’s preferred proxy.
Tshisekedi had shielded his special strategic advisor, Vidiye Tshimanga, in September 2022, after leaked videos went viral showing Tshimanga offering unlimited access to DRC’s minerals in exchange for bribes, including shares in the companies and underhand paybacks, for himself and the president.
Former Minister of Finance, Nicolas Kazadi, a close confidant of Tshisekedi, has been linked to a scandal regarding the misappropriation of millions of US dollars.
Since Tshisekedi’s maneuvers to mask corruption scandals tied to his inner circle are not anything new, Kazadi discreetly left DRC in June 2024 for France through arrangements made from the President’s Office.
Kazadi has never been subject to any arrest warrant, and his case has remained dormant.
On May 20, the former Prime Minister who turned opposition leader - Matata Ponyo - was sentenced to 10 years of forced labor after he was convicted by the Constitutional Court of involvement in the embezzlement of approximately USD 245 million in state funds.
Matata’s accomplices, such as former Central Bank Governor Deogratias Mutombo and South African businessman Christo Grobler were sentenced to five years in prison.
Corruption and embezzlement are longstanding issues in the DRC, but Tshisekedi’s regime made the situation worse than ever.
Tshisekedi’s regime is increasingly crumbling over corruption and embezzlement scandals, in addition to the escalating armed conflict in eastern DRC where AFC/M23 rebels control swathes of territory in the Kivus.
The 2024 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) ranked DRC 163 out of 180 countries, with a score of 20 out of 100, indicating a high level of perceived public sector corruption. The report perceived DRC as one of the least effective countries in controlling public-sector corruption.
High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime
High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regimewww.thegreatlakeseye.com
Mouthpiecenomnom
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That's spicy. Chinese counter-play is obvious now. Go for Fatshit Clan corruption through Belgian courts. 8bill plus in Swiss accounts right? Stashed $ in Cypress recently.
Fat boy should have a look what Ibrahim Traore does in Burkino Faso...If any leader in the whole of Africa could follow his approach...the world would be a much better place....my fully respect to Ibrahim Traore, a real leader with proper balls.I keep private records these days. Here’s a nice article from last month to compliment yours @bloke383
01/06/2025
High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime
Author: Yousuf Rwaka
2025-06-01
The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) stands out as one of the most corrupt and poor countries worldwide. President Felix Tshisekedi’s family and inner circle are embezzling national resources while the Congolese suffer from hunger and poor infrastructure in all aspects of life.
Congolese Minister of Justice Constant Mutamba is now one of the targets of the very system he oversees. He is under investigation for embezzlement and public funds mismanagement.
A request for investigation was made by the Attorney General to the National Assembly to launch a judicial investigation on Mutamba, who is accused of embezzling USD 39 million intended for the construction of a prison in Kisangani, Tshopo province.
“The National Assembly has authorized the Attorney General of the Court of Cassation to initiate legal proceedings against the Minister of Justice. He was forced to submit his resignation to Prime Minister Judith Suminwa,” said a source from Kinshasa.
For the minister of justice to be subjected to prosecution, the National Assembly was required to lift his immunity. It is unclear whether Tshisekedi will allow fair legal proceedings against Mutamba’s crimes, as the latter has been the president’s preferred proxy.
Tshisekedi had shielded his special strategic advisor, Vidiye Tshimanga, in September 2022, after leaked videos went viral showing Tshimanga offering unlimited access to DRC’s minerals in exchange for bribes, including shares in the companies and underhand paybacks, for himself and the president.
Former Minister of Finance, Nicolas Kazadi, a close confidant of Tshisekedi, has been linked to a scandal regarding the misappropriation of millions of US dollars.
Since Tshisekedi’s maneuvers to mask corruption scandals tied to his inner circle are not anything new, Kazadi discreetly left DRC in June 2024 for France through arrangements made from the President’s Office.
Kazadi has never been subject to any arrest warrant, and his case has remained dormant.
On May 20, the former Prime Minister who turned opposition leader - Matata Ponyo - was sentenced to 10 years of forced labor after he was convicted by the Constitutional Court of involvement in the embezzlement of approximately USD 245 million in state funds.
Matata’s accomplices, such as former Central Bank Governor Deogratias Mutombo and South African businessman Christo Grobler were sentenced to five years in prison.
Corruption and embezzlement are longstanding issues in the DRC, but Tshisekedi’s regime made the situation worse than ever.
Tshisekedi’s regime is increasingly crumbling over corruption and embezzlement scandals, in addition to the escalating armed conflict in eastern DRC where AFC/M23 rebels control swathes of territory in the Kivus.
The 2024 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) ranked DRC 163 out of 180 countries, with a score of 20 out of 100, indicating a high level of perceived public sector corruption. The report perceived DRC as one of the least effective countries in controlling public-sector corruption.
High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime
High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime
www.thegreatlakeseye.com
Ibrahim Traore gets paid 800 $ a month...drives an old Land Rover and doesn't life in a palace....The people love him in Burkino.
sorry for posting some things unrelated to AVZ....but this man is a living legend, as more I read up about him..he is the saviour for all African countries. His words are so true...unbelievable true.
Skar
Regular
Imposter used AI to pose as Marco Rubio and contact foreign ministers
The State Department says it is investigating the incident, in which an "unknown individual" impersonated Rubio through the app Signal.
www.bbc.com
My first thought was... now which AVZ investor would be dumb enough to try it.
KentCStrait
Regular
Shane.
Admittedly, the WH doesn't exactly have a strong track record with Signal and 'extras' being involved in high level conversations:Imposter used AI to pose as Marco Rubio and contact foreign ministers
The State Department says it is investigating the incident, in which an "unknown individual" impersonated Rubio through the app Signal.
My first thought was... now which AVZ investor would be dumb enough to try it.
https://www.theatlantic.com/podcast...ey-goldberg-group-chat-broke-internet/682161/
Xerof
Flaming 1967
or Yaseen
marksmann007
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I keep private records these days. Here’s a nice article from last month to compliment yours @bloke383
01/06/2025
High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime
Author: Yousuf Rwaka
2025-06-01
The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) stands out as one of the most corrupt and poor countries worldwide. President Felix Tshisekedi’s family and inner circle are embezzling national resources while the Congolese suffer from hunger and poor infrastructure in all aspects of life.
Congolese Minister of Justice Constant Mutamba is now one of the targets of the very system he oversees. He is under investigation for embezzlement and public funds mismanagement.
A request for investigation was made by the Attorney General to the National Assembly to launch a judicial investigation on Mutamba, who is accused of embezzling USD 39 million intended for the construction of a prison in Kisangani, Tshopo province.
“The National Assembly has authorized the Attorney General of the Court of Cassation to initiate legal proceedings against the Minister of Justice. He was forced to submit his resignation to Prime Minister Judith Suminwa,” said a source from Kinshasa.
For the minister of justice to be subjected to prosecution, the National Assembly was required to lift his immunity. It is unclear whether Tshisekedi will allow fair legal proceedings against Mutamba’s crimes, as the latter has been the president’s preferred proxy.
Tshisekedi had shielded his special strategic advisor, Vidiye Tshimanga, in September 2022, after leaked videos went viral showing Tshimanga offering unlimited access to DRC’s minerals in exchange for bribes, including shares in the companies and underhand paybacks, for himself and the president.
Former Minister of Finance, Nicolas Kazadi, a close confidant of Tshisekedi, has been linked to a scandal regarding the misappropriation of millions of US dollars.
Since Tshisekedi’s maneuvers to mask corruption scandals tied to his inner circle are not anything new, Kazadi discreetly left DRC in June 2024 for France through arrangements made from the President’s Office.
Kazadi has never been subject to any arrest warrant, and his case has remained dormant.
On May 20, the former Prime Minister who turned opposition leader - Matata Ponyo - was sentenced to 10 years of forced labor after he was convicted by the Constitutional Court of involvement in the embezzlement of approximately USD 245 million in state funds.
Matata’s accomplices, such as former Central Bank Governor Deogratias Mutombo and South African businessman Christo Grobler were sentenced to five years in prison.
Corruption and embezzlement are longstanding issues in the DRC, but Tshisekedi’s regime made the situation worse than ever.
Tshisekedi’s regime is increasingly crumbling over corruption and embezzlement scandals, in addition to the escalating armed conflict in eastern DRC where AFC/M23 rebels control swathes of territory in the Kivus.
The 2024 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) ranked DRC 163 out of 180 countries, with a score of 20 out of 100, indicating a high level of perceived public sector corruption. The report perceived DRC as one of the least effective countries in controlling public-sector corruption.
High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime
High levels of corruption crumbling Tshisekedi regime
www.thegreatlakeseye.com
Then I completely misinterpreted the intended tone of your post, but probably partly because it's not the first time you've questioned KoBolds silence.
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