AVZ Discussion 2022

[Winenut]

only to walk out three hours later with a boner and an empty wallet.

well there’s the voice of experience

 

[Samus]

Jin Cheng was spotted outside Cami hq

 

[pow4ade]

I suspect that the DRC president went to China to seek help against the rebels couple of years ago, and he sold us out to the Chinese. But once the Chinese got what the wanted they did not help solving the rebels problem, so he had to run to the Americans. We were fk by the Chinese, now are we fk by the Americans? We are no longer allies, we are just friends with benefits?

China doesn't have partners, they have vassal states. Whereas the US offers equitable partnerships.

Felix recognises this and gets what he wanted, security and prosperity. China outplayed by Trump's commercial diplomacy.

 

[pow4ade]

Wake me in the morning when something makes sense!

Am on a bucks night with future son in law in pubs and clubs and distilleries in The Rocks Sydney …

Once told my future father-in-law, "I'm going to marry your daughter". So he took me to the pub, brought me a beer and said, "Mate, all you gotta do is give her ten bob a week and a back-hander, and you won't have any problems". Those were the days lol.

 

[pow4ade]

DRC journalist wins Trump over:

 

[Winenut]

Once told my future father-in-law, "I'm going to marry your daughter". So he took me to the pub, brought me a beer and said, "Mate, all you gotta do is give her ten bob a week and a back-hander, and you won't have any problems". Those were the days lol.

Are you for fucking real with that shit???…

 

[cruiser51]

China doesn't have partners, they have vassal states. Whereas the US offers equitable partnerships.

Felix recognises this and gets what he wanted, security and prosperity. China outplayed by Trump's commercial diplomacy.

Some interesting watching.
Interesting stories about China's leadership.....
I don't know what is BS, but if these stories are starting to pop up, it seems not all is honky dory.
So interesting to view what is happening.
It seems not all are happy with China over reaching worldwide and XI pulling too much power to himself. A corrupt system at the end of the day will fail.

 

[Mute22]

With numerous agreements still to be finalised over the next three months, followed by final negotiations and the logistics of implementing the settlement (assuming everything goes to plan) - I don’t see any funds hitting bank accounts before November at the earliest.

 

[Bin59]

G7 Critical Minerals Action Plan: Securing Strategic Resources for 2025

Discover how the G7 Critical Minerals Action Plan secures essential resources for tech and energy while creating sustainable opportunities.

discoveryalert.com.au

Interesting article here are some parts of it, too late for assisting AVZ?

The G7 Critical Minerals Action Plan, released in June 2025 and endorsed by Australia, represents a coordinated strategy by the world's wealthiest economies to secure essential raw materials for digital, energy, and defense technologies over the next decade.

This landmark initiative acknowledges the strategic importance of minerals like lithium, rare earths, nickel, cobalt, and tungsten for economic prosperity and national security.

The plan emerges at a critical juncture in global mineral markets, where supply chain vulnerabilities have been exposed through recent geopolitical tensions. According to analysis from White Noise Communications, the G7 nations have recognized that control over these resources directly impacts technological sovereignty and economic competitiveness in an increasingly resource-constrained world.

As global demand for clean energy technologies accelerates, the Action Plan provides a framework for cooperation that extends beyond traditional market dynamics, incorporating security considerations previously reserved for defense industries into resource strategy.
Furthermore, the plan addresses growing concerns about critical minerals energy transition requirements and how these will shape future economic relationships.

And,

Collaboration with Emerging Markets​

The plan emphasizes partnerships with developing nations to:

• Build local capacity in responsible mining practices
• Create jobs in resource-rich developing regions
• Establish sustainable extraction and processing capabilities
• Develop mutually beneficial supply chain relationships
• Transfer knowledge and technology to emerging producers

For Australian companies operating in Africa or Southeast Asia, this creates opportunities for new partnerships that maintain high operational standards.

These partnerships represent a counter-model to extractive relationships that have characterized some resource development in emerging economies. By emphasizing shared technology transfer and capacity building, the G7 approach aims to create alternative development pathways that align economic growth with sustainable practices. The establishment of a new European CRM facility represents one practical implementation of this collaborative approach.

 

[Flight996]

G7 Critical Minerals Action Plan: Securing Strategic Resources for 2025

Discover how the G7 Critical Minerals Action Plan secures essential resources for tech and energy while creating sustainable opportunities.

discoveryalert.com.au

Interesting article here are some parts of it, too late for assisting AVZ?

View attachment 87794

The G7 Critical Minerals Action Plan, released in June 2025 and endorsed by Australia, represents a coordinated strategy by the world's wealthiest economies to secure essential raw materials for digital, energy, and defense technologies over the next decade.

This landmark initiative acknowledges the strategic importance of minerals like lithium, rare earths, nickel, cobalt, and tungsten for economic prosperity and national security.

The plan emerges at a critical juncture in global mineral markets, where supply chain vulnerabilities have been exposed through recent geopolitical tensions. According to analysis from White Noise Communications, the G7 nations have recognized that control over these resources directly impacts technological sovereignty and economic competitiveness in an increasingly resource-constrained world.

As global demand for clean energy technologies accelerates, the Action Plan provides a framework for cooperation that extends beyond traditional market dynamics, incorporating security considerations previously reserved for defense industries into resource strategy.
Furthermore, the plan addresses growing concerns about critical minerals energy transition requirements and how these will shape future economic relationships.

And,

Collaboration with Emerging Markets​

The plan emphasizes partnerships with developing nations to:

• Build local capacity in responsible mining practices
• Create jobs in resource-rich developing regions
• Establish sustainable extraction and processing capabilities
• Develop mutually beneficial supply chain relationships
• Transfer knowledge and technology to emerging producers

For Australian companies operating in Africa or Southeast Asia, this creates opportunities for new partnerships that maintain high operational standards.

These partnerships represent a counter-model to extractive relationships that have characterized some resource development in emerging economies. By emphasizing shared technology transfer and capacity building, the G7 approach aims to create alternative development pathways that align economic growth with sustainable practices. The establishment of a new European CRM facility represents one practical implementation of this collaborative approach.

I almost chocked on my warm croissant and double-decaf latte reading that verbose word-fest from yet another bunch of clueless bureaucrats.

It's pretty hard to maintain high operational standards when you cannot operate due to relentless and institutionalised corruption abetted by the odious Chinese.

They also forgot to mention that the Australian Government will be MIA when a company finds itself subject to arbitrary laws and illegal expropriation of its valuable assets.

Now, where's that croissant?

 

[BRICK]

With numerous agreements still to be finalised over the next three months, followed by final negotiations and the logistics of implementing the settlement (assuming everything goes to plan) - I don’t see any funds hitting bank accounts before November at the earliest.

View attachment 87796

We may miss the rebound for lithium

 

[Mute22]

We may miss the rebound for lithium

I would assume any calculations for damages/settlement are calculated on a much longer term horizon than the monthly, or even yearly fluctuations in pricing. Everybody knows what the outlook is expected to be beyond 2030.

 

[Jongo]

RIO eyeing AVZ in this article in The West Australian today. However, I have not read it because I don't subscribe to the newspaper.

Rio Tinto reportedly eyeing lithium deal in the Congo

Rio Tinto is reportedly keen to ride on the coattails of a deal in the Congo that could unlock a big piece of the world’s largest hard rock lithium deposit and save stranded shareholders of AVZ Minerals.

thewest.com.au

 

[Mute22]

RIO eyeing AVZ in this article in The West Australian today. However, I have not read it because I don't subscribe to the newspaper.

Rio Tinto reportedly eyeing lithium deal in the Congo

Rio Tinto is reportedly keen to ride on the coattails of a deal in the Congo that could unlock a big piece of the world’s largest hard rock lithium deposit and save stranded shareholders of AVZ Minerals.

thewest.com.au

I got you:

Rio Tinto reportedly eyeing AVZ Minerals-linked lithium deal in the Democratic Republic of Congo​

Rio Tinto is reportedly keen to ride on the coattails of a deal in the Congo that could unlock a big piece of the world’s largest hard rock lithium deposit and save stranded shareholders of AVZ Minerals.

Government officials from the Democratic Republic of Congo and Rio Tinto higher-ups held discussions in recent weeks about developing the Roche Dure mineral resource into a lithium mine, according to Bloomberg.

Rio’s interest in the Roche Dure comes as the United States and the DRC negotiate a potential critical minerals and security partnership.
China has grown its influence in the DRC in recent years, effectively locking out Western companies from doing mining deals.
But now the DRC is entertaining a deal with the Trump Administration as the central African country struggles to suppress a Rwanda-backed rebellion in its eastern provinces.

Bloomberg last week reported that KoBold Metals, which counts the ultra-rich Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos as investors, is interested in Roche Dure. KoBold and Rio are supposedly mulling a joint venture to build and run Roche Dure.
KoBold’s proposal also reportedly aims to resolve a long-drawn dispute involving AVZ Minerals, China’s Zijin Mining Group and the DRC government, according to a letter seen by Bloomberg.

Argentina is coming to eat Australia’s mining lunch, BHP WA iron ore asset president Tim Day warns
Australian Workers Union lodges FWC application marking another step towards seizing WA Rio Tinto mine
KoBold’s plan is contingent on AVZ receiving “appropriate compensation” and agreeing to transfer all its interests in the DRC.
Roche Dure was first discovered and defined by AVZ as part of its Manono mining project.

AVZ was developing the Manono— touted as “the biggest lithium discovery on the planet” — but in 2023 the DRC’s government controversially revoked and split the licence, giving Zijin the northern portion.

The value of West Perth-based AVZ, which was listed on the ASX, was savaged by the licence drama and its shares are currently delisted.
AVZ is fighting a bitter legal battle in hopes of winning back the whole deposit. Adding to the drama, The West Australian in December revealed that AVZ is under investigation by the Australian Federal Police over bribery allegations.
AVZ has denied the bribery allegations.

Rio’s purported move in the Congo comes as the Anglo Australian miner pours significant sums into lithium investments across the globe, despite the battery commodity’s depressed price.

Rio last year spent more than $10 billion to buy Arcadium Lithium and separately is building a lithium mine in Argentina. It also plans to build run lithium operation in rural Serbia, despite fierce local community opposition.

 

[Mute22]

I got you:

Rio Tinto reportedly eyeing AVZ Minerals-linked lithium deal in the Democratic Republic of Congo​

Rio Tinto is reportedly keen to ride on the coattails of a deal in the Congo that could unlock a big piece of the world’s largest hard rock lithium deposit and save stranded shareholders of AVZ Minerals.

Government officials from the Democratic Republic of Congo and Rio Tinto higher-ups held discussions in recent weeks about developing the Roche Dure mineral resource into a lithium mine, according to Bloomberg.

Rio’s interest in the Roche Dure comes as the United States and the DRC negotiate a potential critical minerals and security partnership.
China has grown its influence in the DRC in recent years, effectively locking out Western companies from doing mining deals.
But now the DRC is entertaining a deal with the Trump Administration as the central African country struggles to suppress a Rwanda-backed rebellion in its eastern provinces.

Bloomberg last week reported that KoBold Metals, which counts the ultra-rich Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos as investors, is interested in Roche Dure. KoBold and Rio are supposedly mulling a joint venture to build and run Roche Dure.
KoBold’s proposal also reportedly aims to resolve a long-drawn dispute involving AVZ Minerals, China’s Zijin Mining Group and the DRC government, according to a letter seen by Bloomberg.

Argentina is coming to eat Australia’s mining lunch, BHP WA iron ore asset president Tim Day warns
Australian Workers Union lodges FWC application marking another step towards seizing WA Rio Tinto mine
KoBold’s plan is contingent on AVZ receiving “appropriate compensation” and agreeing to transfer all its interests in the DRC.
Roche Dure was first discovered and defined by AVZ as part of its Manono mining project.

AVZ was developing the Manono— touted as “the biggest lithium discovery on the planet” — but in 2023 the DRC’s government controversially revoked and split the licence, giving Zijin the northern portion.

The value of West Perth-based AVZ, which was listed on the ASX, was savaged by the licence drama and its shares are currently delisted.
AVZ is fighting a bitter legal battle in hopes of winning back the whole deposit. Adding to the drama, The West Australian in December revealed that AVZ is under investigation by the Australian Federal Police over bribery allegations.
AVZ has denied the bribery allegations.

Rio’s purported move in the Congo comes as the Anglo Australian miner pours significant sums into lithium investments across the globe, despite the battery commodity’s depressed price.

Rio last year spent more than $10 billion to buy Arcadium Lithium and separately is building a lithium mine in Argentina. It also plans to build run lithium operation in rural Serbia, despite fierce local community opposition.

Actually, that seems to be the article back from 31st March @Jongo ?

 

[Winenut]

I almost chocked on my warm croissant and double-decaf latte reading that verbose word-fest from yet another bunch of clueless bureaucrats.

It's pretty hard to maintain high operational standards when you cannot operate due to relentless and institutionalised corruption abetted by the odious Chinese.

They also forgot to mention that the Australian Government will be MIA when a company finds itself subject to arbitrary laws and illegal expropriation of its valuable assets.

Now, where's that croissant?

Would have been shoking if you chocked on your croissant …..

 

[Jongo]

Actually, that seems to be the article back from 31st March @Jongo ?

The article popped up on my phone this morning and hence, I presumed that it was a new article. Does the full article mention the article date?

 

[pow4ade]

Are you for fucking real with that shit???…

Like it or not, 52 years ago that was considered an acceptable joke between two blokes at the bar in a bush pub. Men were largely unreconstructed back then.

 

[Ashlee]

Once told my future father-in-law, "I'm going to marry your daughter". So he took me to the pub, brought me a beer and said, "Mate, all you gotta do is give her ten bob a week and a back-hander, and you won't have any problems". Those were the days lol.

Let’s hope you have come out of the cave, what a disgusting way to talk about daughters and women.

 

[Mute22]

Once told my future father-in-law, "I'm going to marry your daughter". So he took me to the pub, brought me a beer and said, "Mate, all you gotta do is give her ten bob a week and a back-hander, and you won't have any problems". Those were the days lol.

"Those were the days"

There's nothing worth being nostalgic about when it comes to violence against the fairer sex. Even back then there was nothing more pathetic.