Retrobyte
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Were there any ayam selling their wares ?
AVZ Discussion 2022
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Were there any ayam selling their wares ?
plenty of ayam lalat early morning , I got propositioned by a banchong at 6am all I wanted was coffee black
BRICK
Where’s Zeebot 😶🌫️
I call them the village chickens....
Retrobyte
Hates a beer
Should have taken the offer from the waria in that case!
ayam kampung , I ran one over years ago cost me $5 and the owner took it , it was my dinner
LOCKY82
Regular
It's not news the drc is against avz, and kobold likely know a lot more than any of us about the whole ordeal, I doubt this has deterred kobold much at all. The tone should be a lot different if/when peace deal is signed.
marksmann007
Regular
Let’s also remember the primary reason for AVZ to suspend ISCID was to give the US gov time to allow for a climate conducive to discussions, a gesture on our behalf to allow the US to broker peace discussions between DRC & Rwanda.
Should be signed by Friday 27th.
Lets see how things go for us once that deal‘s done…
Should be signed by Friday 27th.
Lets see how things go for us once that deal‘s done…
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OmarsCominYo
Member
In the midst of banging my head repeatedly on the table this afternoon, one thought cut through the distraction....is it in the interest of the US/Kobold for positive reports of reconciliation/productive engagement between AVZ and DRC officials at this point in proceedings?
Optics are obviously important on any number of levels to the US in what they are trying to achieve here, as they want a significant win to parade on the world stage....even more so with events of recent weeks. They want to be seen as heroes.
If they can negotiate for a workable peace treaty in the longstanding conflict between two major African nations, bring multiple billions of needed Western investment, along with the subsequent improvements in living conditions to the long suffering populations, while also enormously benefiting the all important US economy and workforce with access to the plethora of vital 21st Century minerals the DRC is blessed with, AND combat China's attempts at a stranglehold on the sector in the process, then it's no small victory to the good ol boys.
Whilst there are potentially trillions of dollars of needed minerals in the ground in the DRC, there is only one proven up, homogenous, ready to go, lithium deposit of such size that it can dictate market dynamics for potentially decades to come, and you can be damn sure they won't want that to slip away as part of these negotiations. Kobold is a proxy for the US Department of State in this imo and as such will play hardball to get what they want as part of the overall peace/security and mineral deals.
They want the DRC to stop fucking us around so they can get their hands on our lithium rights, but the timing has had to be right for all these other important bricks to fall into place (how long have they been pulling the strings quietly in the background to get to this point is probably a valid thought) and it's important for them to appear to be the saviours in all this....to relieve the DRC of these pesky, honest, hardworking Aussies who will call a spade a fucking spade, and have become a real pain in the collective DRC arse, while giving us a shortcut to a fair and appropriate compensation for being ousted from the potential lithium resource of the century, rather than having to drag it through the international courts. If we suddenly smoothed things over with big Felix and his band of merry men before the ink has dried on the other agreements, as opposed to them patting us on the back and telling us they got this, once the treaties go through, then it may take some of their shine away.
All this while publically wearing their star spangled capes for the world to see. A true win-win-win if handled appropriately.....which is great, but if it's worth having then it's worth them paying appropriately for and we all know the starting figures for that portion of negotiations involve the ICSID claim amount.
Maybe I banged my head a few too many times...
Optics are obviously important on any number of levels to the US in what they are trying to achieve here, as they want a significant win to parade on the world stage....even more so with events of recent weeks. They want to be seen as heroes.
If they can negotiate for a workable peace treaty in the longstanding conflict between two major African nations, bring multiple billions of needed Western investment, along with the subsequent improvements in living conditions to the long suffering populations, while also enormously benefiting the all important US economy and workforce with access to the plethora of vital 21st Century minerals the DRC is blessed with, AND combat China's attempts at a stranglehold on the sector in the process, then it's no small victory to the good ol boys.
Whilst there are potentially trillions of dollars of needed minerals in the ground in the DRC, there is only one proven up, homogenous, ready to go, lithium deposit of such size that it can dictate market dynamics for potentially decades to come, and you can be damn sure they won't want that to slip away as part of these negotiations. Kobold is a proxy for the US Department of State in this imo and as such will play hardball to get what they want as part of the overall peace/security and mineral deals.
They want the DRC to stop fucking us around so they can get their hands on our lithium rights, but the timing has had to be right for all these other important bricks to fall into place (how long have they been pulling the strings quietly in the background to get to this point is probably a valid thought) and it's important for them to appear to be the saviours in all this....to relieve the DRC of these pesky, honest, hardworking Aussies who will call a spade a fucking spade, and have become a real pain in the collective DRC arse, while giving us a shortcut to a fair and appropriate compensation for being ousted from the potential lithium resource of the century, rather than having to drag it through the international courts. If we suddenly smoothed things over with big Felix and his band of merry men before the ink has dried on the other agreements, as opposed to them patting us on the back and telling us they got this, once the treaties go through, then it may take some of their shine away.
All this while publically wearing their star spangled capes for the world to see. A true win-win-win if handled appropriately.....which is great, but if it's worth having then it's worth them paying appropriately for and we all know the starting figures for that portion of negotiations involve the ICSID claim amount.
Maybe I banged my head a few too many times...
Azzler
Top 20
Some thoughtful posts mate.
Just wondering if you post on HC or X under another name if you wish to share?
If DRC knowing that AVZ will be paid/bought out/compensated then what is the point of them engaging in negotiating with AVZ now? That's the mentality of third world's people in authority. Let's wait and see. Many here not long ago, wished to see us continuing with arbitration proceeding, didn't we?
LOCKY82
Regular
Can't see a whif of it on any news sites...
Gotta disagree.
I don't think the DRC government are fools.
They have stayed true to their own totally corrupted selves and will continue to do so.
They are not interested in general DRC wellbeing. They are interested in themselves and to a much lesser extent the clans that give them strength.
Their MO is designed to keep them:
Out of prison
In power.
Continuing to collect large paper bags.
Nothing has changed, nor will it ever.
None of us are party to the goings on but the government has conceded nothing, is still in power and is still collecting all of the other paper bags from that huge country.
I'm quite sure that US military power, or lack thereof, means that they will eventually have to play ball, but remember all of the leverage, known and ' unknown ' that th CCP has to delay and obfuscate in an attempt to wear AVZ and the West down.
They will do what CCP tells them to do until it's no lnger tenable.
OmarsCominYo
Member
Cheers Azzler, I sometimes post as Klaxon on HC but I'm not a big contributor online and any thoughts are just personal ramblings (and have a case history of being very wrong, as my wallet can attest to!).
Very much appreciate all the more regular and far more considerable/informed contributors here over the years and there are still some diamonds amongst the dross on HC too. Was a reader on twitter before the switch to x but gave it away after it all went pear shaped for AVZ as, like others, the emotional toll was pretty high.
Hoping we all have reasons to breathe a collective sigh of relief at some point.
Hopefully not true then - I’m sharing it from Facebook. Someone else posted earlier about not knowing his whereabouts for a while
Carlos Danger
Top 20
Nothing can happen until the tenement (at least the south) is put back in our name as a PR. The DRC refusing to do this is the hold up. Because they actually believe their own crap that it is in Cominiere’s name uNdEr dRc LaW and that KoBold should be negotiating with them instead of AVZ.
If anyone is feeling down today I refer you to the ICC arbiters prima facie view on Cominiere’s claims of them owning the tenement where they stated ‘The Arbitral Tribunal is astonished by the fact that the High Court of Kalemie found that a contract had been terminated without the other parties to the contract being heard or summoned to express their position.’
As a golden rule arbiters should be independent. But this goes beyond a dispute in legal terms and the actions of Cominiere are an attack on the concept of adversarial fairness in law itself. They are going to be made an example of even by the arbiter that they chose imo
If anyone is feeling down today I refer you to the ICC arbiters prima facie view on Cominiere’s claims of them owning the tenement where they stated ‘The Arbitral Tribunal is astonished by the fact that the High Court of Kalemie found that a contract had been terminated without the other parties to the contract being heard or summoned to express their position.’
As a golden rule arbiters should be independent. But this goes beyond a dispute in legal terms and the actions of Cominiere are an attack on the concept of adversarial fairness in law itself. They are going to be made an example of even by the arbiter that they chose imo
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