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Luppo71

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That will happen in 2027 ether way as mentioned by china’s head of military
Yeah not so sure.
Taiwan military has mentioned if China does invade they will respond by blowing the 3 gorges dam
which would effect up to 400 million+ chinese and wipe out some of their military as well.
Then China hits them with nuclear weapons which destroys Taiwan completly.
Taiwan destroyed, China destroyed.
The west would actually invite this and why not.
The US wins without lifting a finger.
 
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Rangersman

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Yes I would actually. On the principle of not enabling the aggressor. And I have nothing against Russians, but with Russian soldiers who choose to partake in a war on another country's territory it's another story.

Anyway this is the last I'm posting on this topic, it has gone on too far for my liking.

Yes I would actually. On the principle of not enabling the aggressor. And I have nothing against Russians, but with Russian soldiers who choose to partake in a war on another country's territory it's another story.

Anyway this is the last I'm posting on this topic, it has gone on too far for my liking.
Wouldn't have gone on for so long if you just admitted your comment was 'off.'
 
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Iseki

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The move to a US exchange would really require a cornerstone investor signed up and ready to take up 5% of the company as a planned part of the move, if only to show the way for US investors.

The current retail investors won't vote to move on a whim without evidence that the move will work without a cornerstone investor. I certainly could only vote for a move if this was lined up. If we can't find such an investor, then that is evidence suggesting the move will not save us.

Floating the idea now is a sign to prospective partners that they should start evaluating us as serious business partners, especially if we are to take on new board members recommended by such a cornerstone investor.

A number of companies come to mind and hopefully Sean can get a bidding war going for such a stake.

I wonder who would be best?
 
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BigDonger101

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Our best bet and I'm hoping we're in Ukrainian drones. They are already producing 4 million of those a year (and growing) and if they're going to use AKD for swarming and autonomous targeting at $2 a piece that would be assuring, and though I hate the idea of it being used to hurt people, I'm also fed up with the BS management, and Russians soldiers don't count 🤣.
What in the world lol.

Russian soldiers aren't human beings? Apologies if I've misinterpreted.

Massive L take from you my friend.
 
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In the last week I have seen an incredible metamorphosis in my TSE friends. Before that, we looked of new information and shared it with the group. We joined the dots in different ways. Some dot joining was abstract and imaginative. Some was more factual and logical. However, we all had a common goal which I thought was to share information and ideas so everyone could continually to re-evaluate their shareholding position in Brainchip.
Then, there was the announcement of redomiciling. What a change has occurred since then. Sean is an even bigger liar. The board are even more incompetent. Trump is an even bigger hero/dipshit. I am not part of this to find out whether you think Russian soldiers lives don't matter or if you would like to make love to Donald or assassinate him. I would like to see information on what Brainchip is doing like I used to.
Thank you to Bravo and a few others for trying to continue to keep it real over the last week.
Back to work friends, we have a Pacific problem to navigate.
 
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Quercuskid

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In the last week I have seen an incredible metamorphosis in my TSE friends. Before that, we looked of new information and shared it with the group. We joined the dots in different ways. Some dot joining was abstract and imaginative. Some was more factual and logical. However, we all had a common goal which I thought was to share information and ideas so everyone could continually to re-evaluate their shareholding position in Brainchip.
Then, there was the announcement of redomiciling. What a change has occurred since then. Sean is an even bigger liar. The board are even more incompetent. Trump is an even bigger hero/dipshit. I am not part of this to find out whether you think Russian soldiers lives don't matter or if you would like to make love to Donald or assassinate him. I would like to see information on what Brainchip is doing like I used to.
Thank you to Bravo and a few others for trying to continue to keep it real over the last week.
Back to work friends, we have a Pacific problem to navigate.
Absolutely
 
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TheDrooben

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Russian soldiers don't count?
These are still people.

A continued war with Russia, with Europe now pledging "boots on the ground" and expecting the US to help?

This is pushing closer to World War 3, Russia is a nuclear power and is not going to "fold" or be humbled.

Only people wishing for widespread Death and Destruction, should be happy, with how things are unfolding here.

It will be a Great Cleansing of the Earth, of the majority of Humanity, if it happens.

Apparently, bloody Democrats met with Zelensky first and told him not to sign any deals.
"Apparently".....yes not the Orange Oracle to blame again mate for not siding with a democratically elected govemment over a communist state......WTF is going on there????.......I suggest you try the way I approach politics and put the politician you do agree with in the place of those you don't and see if you agree with the outcome.......so if you would be happy with Biden or Obama cozying up with communist Putin and walking away from a state with a democratically elected leader (who obviously can't hold elections at the moment due to a state of war) then fine that is up to you. I do agree with Trump on some things such as the fact that Bush, Blair and Howard should be tried as war criminals for invading a country on false pretences of WMD.....but on most other things and for eg tariffs and I think he either doesn't know what a tariff is or what it does.........have a look at what is happening right now. US republicans (MTG) have even said that the Democrats control the weather and that is why they had a hurricane just before the election........so please be careful and don't fall off the edge of the earth mate
 
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TheDrooben

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China is watching how the US deals with a dictator attacking a sovereign country. This reation would I suggest embolden China to rock into Taiwan as the US will stand back. History sure does look like it repeats, think of Nazi Germany and the response initially from British to trust Hitler not to invade other countries.
Not religious at all but if I was I would say Amen to this post @Rskiff ......have a look at Neville Chamberlains dealings with the Nazis and Czechoslovakia.....history is on repeat at the moment
 
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Iseki

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In the last week I have seen an incredible metamorphosis in my TSE friends. Before that, we looked of new information and shared it with the group. We joined the dots in different ways. Some dot joining was abstract and imaginative. Some was more factual and logical. However, we all had a common goal which I thought was to share information and ideas so everyone could continually to re-evaluate their shareholding position in Brainchip.
Then, there was the announcement of redomiciling. What a change has occurred since then. Sean is an even bigger liar. The board are even more incompetent. Trump is an even bigger hero/dipshit. I am not part of this to find out whether you think Russian soldiers lives don't matter or if you would like to make love to Donald or assassinate him. I would like to see information on what Brainchip is doing like I used to.
Thank you to Bravo and a few others for trying to continue to keep it real over the last week.
Back to work friends, we have a Pacific problem to navigate.
Sure, but then the idea of flipping up to a US exchange was produced by the board as a unanimous desire on their behalf, and supplied without evidence, that the ASX's announcement policies were not working for us.
 
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"Apparently".....yes not the Orange Oracle to blame again mate for not siding with a democratically elected govemment over a communist state......WTF is going on there????.......I suggest you try the way I approach politics and put the politician you do agree with in the place of those you don't and see if you agree with the outcome.......so if you would be happy with Biden or Obama cozying up with communist Putin and walking away from a state with a democratically elected leader (who obviously can't hold elections at the moment due to a state of war) then fine that is up to you. I do agree with Trump on some things such as the fact that Bush, Blair and Howard should be tried as war criminals for invading a country on false pretences of WMD.....but on most other things and for eg tariffs and I think he either doesn't know what a tariff is or what it does.........have a look at what is happening right now. US republicans (MTG) have even said that the Democrats control the weather and that is why they had a hurricane just before the election........so please be careful and don't fall off the edge of the earth mate
Diplomacy.
Look it up.
There's no point taking this further here.
 
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rgupta

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In the last week I have seen an incredible metamorphosis in my TSE friends. Before that, we looked of new information and shared it with the group. We joined the dots in different ways. Some dot joining was abstract and imaginative. Some was more factual and logical. However, we all had a common goal which I thought was to share information and ideas so everyone could continually to re-evaluate their shareholding position in Brainchip.
Then, there was the announcement of redomiciling. What a change has occurred since then. Sean is an even bigger liar. The board are even more incompetent. Trump is an even bigger hero/dipshit. I am not part of this to find out whether you think Russian soldiers lives don't matter or if you would like to make love to Donald or assassinate him. I would like to see information on what Brainchip is doing like I used to.
Thank you to Bravo and a few others for trying to continue to keep it real over the last week.
Back to work friends, we have a Pacific problem to navigate.
You are right but think this way we spend time and effort to know more about our company and how good we are in making our investment decisions.
But then Sean and the management shattered all the boundaries and we are more worried about our investments than researching further into brainchip. For almost last four years there are not too many positive announcements. Then with in three days management brings us down to begging bowl. So the heroes are looking like villains and villains are looking like hero.
Yes the management is fucking the long term investors and they have no clue to operate this company.
Dyor
 
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HopalongPetrovski

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Akida hitting from all sides
 

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GazDix

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Where does everyone get their information from? Mainstream? X? Insta? Facebook? Only ABC? Only SBS?
At least we have options. Hence these pointless debates you are all having about politics with none of us being competely informed.

Where do we get info for Brainchip? Those inept to open an X account, I don't blame you.
There were many days before 15th November 2021 when it was the ASX. Non price Ann's anndd.. Proper Ann's. This is what we should care about as investors of this company.
 
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jtardif999

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Then according to your belief Dodgy , the 40% to 60% reduction in MAC’s below should read 100% reduction in MAC’s .
But unfortunately it doesn’t .

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The amount of technical literature from Brainchip including comprehensive MAC comparison seems unlimited Dodgy . To continue to claim that a product including MAC specifications therefore can’t be Brainchip full stop , I find very difficult to simply accept and take on face value .

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Matrix operations are the way AI is done using a Von Nuemen computer. Akida has hardware digital spiking neurons that arrive at understanding and learning in a way that resembles more closely the way we do - not the way traditional computers need to. Traditional computers do math and arithmetic logic and can only arrive at a conclusion using math and logic as that is the way computer hardware is structured right to its base level, so for AI to work with traditional computers it has been found to work at its most efficient using matrix multiplication or MACs. Akida doesn’t need MACs to do AI it wouldn’t make sense, it’s not architected that way. They only use MACs in terms of describing performance - how many MACs would a conventional computer use to achieve the same performance as Akida.
 
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IloveLamp

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Arm mentions neuromorphic in the vid

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LDA Capital pricing period starts this Friday, so we need news flow now.

It's rabbit pulling time.
 
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BrainShit

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Arm mentions neuromorphic in the vid

Moon now please.

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Ericsson has some neuromorphic usage mentioned in his patens, right? (wording: "like Intel Loihi2, Aikda...")

Ericsson Research developed a radio receiver prototype for Intel’s Loihi 2 neuromorphic AI accelerator based on neuromorphic spiking neural networks, which reduced the data communication by 75 to 99% for energy efficient radio access networks (RANs).
Source: https://community.intel.com/t5/Blog...s-How-Intel-Labs-Neuromorphic-AI/post/1588697

So, actually I guess no Akida...

Have also a view here: https://ai-ran.org/mwc-2025/


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Was digging around to try understand some of the logic, pros / cons and mechanics of the redomociling thinking of the company.

As for Super impacts, as others have suggested, it's a case by case for each individual on a redomocile structure and may have to wait to see how the company intends to complete it.

Also, tried to find a recent example of an ASX co that has done it to see how they structured it up. Could be they use or create a secondary listing on the ASX at first glance...not read it all fully.

Fwiw AVR (not a holder) did this in the second half of last year and link below to their Ann's via Listcorp. The Scheme Booklet is around Sept and their plan and outline was in Aug Ann.

The other link and article is by HerbertSmithFreehills giving some details and structure around redomociling.





Redomiciliation transactions in Australia; unlocking value​


Deal Talk: Australian M&A Update
26 Apr 2023 Insight Australia
Article - By Kam Jamshidi and Simon Walker

Redomiciliation transactions can be a valuable option for Australian companies seeking to gain access to foreign stock exchanges and capital markets. In this article, we take a look at the reasons why a business might seek to redomicile and consider some of the key legal issues involved.

Redomiciliation transactions can be a valuable option for Australian companies seeking to gain access to prominent foreign stock exchanges and capital markets. The benefits include listing on an exchange where: (i) investors better understand the company (driving a higher valuation multiple); (ii) accessing deeper capital liquidity in foreign markets; and (iii) the scrip is more attractive for global M&A than ASX listed stock, as well as corporate structure advantages.

In brief​

  • A redomiciliation transaction involves a business relocating its domicile or legal ‘home’ from one jurisdiction to another. This is usually achieved by ‘top-hatting’ the corporate group with an offshore entity.
  • There are a number of potential benefits to undertaking a redomiciliation, including potentially achieving a better valuation, better access to capital and using better accepted scrip consideration for global M&A.
  • The central focus in undertaking a redomiciliation is designing a corporate structure with the appropriate corporate law, reporting and shareholder rights regime that is not unduly onerous but meets the long-term expectations of investors.
  • Redomiciliation transactions are rare, and it is important to use experienced advisers who can navigate the bespoke considerations and challenges.

What is a redomiciliation transaction?​

A redomiciliation transaction refers to the process by which a business relocates its domicile or legal home from one jurisdiction to another.

For a business that is structured as a corporate group, undertaking a redomiciliation usually involves changing the jurisdiction of incorporation of the ultimate holding company of the group.
This is usually achieved by having a company in the new jurisdiction acquire all of the shares in the current ultimate holding company in exchange for scrip (a process often referred to as a ‘top-hat’).

For listed corporate groups, a redomiciliation transaction is often driven by a desire to change listing venue. For instance, a group headed by an Australian company listed on ASX could become a group headed by a Hong Kong company listed on the HKeX. Alternatively, it could become a group headed by a Jersey company with a primary listing on NYSE and a secondary listing on ASX.

The possible combinations of jurisdiction of incorporation and listing venue are many, although for transactions heading out of Australia there are a few well-worn paths to take — ASX to NYSE or Nasdaq, for instance.

We advised Amcor in 2019 on the largest example of such a transaction in the last ~20 years. Examples of redomiciliations for large corporate groups with broad shareholdings such as this are extremely rare.

Benefits of redomiciling​

The reasons for redomiciling are varied and in some cases are quite company specific, such as a wider corporate restructure or transformational acquisition. Here are some benefits commonly put forward:
  • Comparison with peers in new listing venue — Where a company relocates to the same listing venue as its peers, it may be possible to achieve a better valuation outcome as comparing the company with its peers becomes much easier. This can be driven by a number of factors, for example financial and other information will start to be reported in a manner consistent with the peers. This can assist analysis and understanding of the company by equity research analysts and institutional investors. This may attract new investors who see greater value in the business by comparing directly to the peers listed on the same exchange.
  • Better liquidity and access to capital — Some overseas capital markets are larger and more liquid than those in Australia, especially in global financial hubs like the US, London, Toronto and Hong Kong. The NYSE has a much larger trading volume and liquidity than ASX, for instance, which can provide a company with greater market depth and liquidity for its shares, as well as better access to new equity capital.
  • Major index inclusion — Relocating to certain stock exchanges could result in inclusion in a relevant stock market index (eg, S&P 500, FTSE 100 or Euronext 100), which will further drive demand for the company’s shares from index funds and other investors that may overlook Australian capital markets. In some instances it is possible to retain an ASX index inclusion by retaining an ASX listing.
  • Facilitates M&A — For companies that are looking to undertake M&A, offering scrip consideration in a company listed on a major global stock exchange may be more attractive than ASX-listed scrip. For example, using NYSE or Nasdaq-listed scrip to acquire a US-listed company is usually much more palatable for the US company’s shareholders than using ASX-listed scrip.
  • Corporate structuring — If an Australian company earns the majority of its income overseas, it may be less tax efficient to have an Australian holding company as income needs to be repatriated. As the company will not be generating Australian franking credits on its foreign sourced income it may be underrated by Australian shareholders in comparison to an entity paying a similar franked yield.
  • Growth into new markets — If a company has an international focus or its main operations are overseas, relocating to ‘where the action is’ (and the majority of management are located) can encourage growth, brand visibility, and access to new markets and customers.

Key legal considerations​

Undertaking a redomiciliation transaction requires detailed consideration of a wide range of issues affecting the corporate group, including legal, tax and regulatory matters. We often liken the process to redesigning the legal and tax identity of an operating corporate group from a blank sheet of paper.

The legal issues fall into two categories.
First, there are the legal aspects associated with implementing the transaction. Each of the examples noted above effected the redomiciliation by way of a top hat scheme of arrangement where the new foreign holding company acquires the old Australian holding company and the shareholders exchange their shares in the old holding company for shares in the new one. The process is similar to what would happen in a normal public company M&A transaction effected by scheme of arrangement — a scheme booklet (including an independent expert’s report) is prepared by the company and sent to shareholders, shareholders vote on the redomiciliation and the company then applies to the Court for approval.

A longer timeline than usual can be needed to prepare the scheme booklet if accounts are to be restated in a different accounting standard or different audit standards — this can take time but also results in changes to the reported financial information that will need to be explained to shareholders. If there is a change of listing venue, the company will need to comply with the relevant overseas stock exchange admission requirements, which may include preparing an overseas disclosure document alongside the scheme booklet. For example, a prospectus or similar in a foreign jurisdiction may be necessary to facilitate the listing on the overseas stock exchange. As in any restructure, regulatory approvals (such as FIRB) and impacts on the company’s contractual arrangements (including debt facilities) must be considered.

It is not uncommon for a redomiciliation to be coupled with another transaction, such as an acquisition or merger or capital raising, which can be a driver for the redomiciliation (eg, to allow the use of scrip listed on a particular exchange) or be used to create liquidity in the new listing venue post-redomiciliation. Combining these transactions can increase the implementation complexity, adding all the challenges of an acquisition or capital raise to those of the redomiciliation and potentially compromising the ability of Australian shareholders to obtain rollover relief in respect of any unrealised gains on their existing shares. An ATO class ruling confirming the tax implications of the transaction would be recommended.

Second, there are the ongoing legal aspects of the new holding company and home jurisdiction. Different jurisdictions have different corporate law frameworks regulating matters like shareholder rights, dividends, company meetings, takeovers and so on. Some jurisdictions are more prescriptive in regulating these kinds of fundamental matters, while others leave companies to fill in the detail themselves in constitutional documents. Generally, companies will want to aim for a jurisdiction with a stable corporate law environment that meets stakeholder expectations (in particular investors) in terms of governance, but avoid an overly burdensome regulatory compliance regime. The ongoing reporting and compliance burden imposed by the particular listing venue will be relevant.

For example, companies seeking to list on NYSE or Nasdaq will be subject to reporting requirements in the US (even if the company itself is not a US company), and therefore should be thoughtful to avoid having competing obligations under the selected corporate law regime. In addition, the company will need to transition its corporate governance policies, management equity plans and key employment contracts to the new jurisdiction, which can involve replacing them entirely with new arrangements.

Tax implications of the new corporate structure and domicile of the ultimate holding company will of course also be an important consideration. In particular, ensuring that the new holding company is not a resident of Australia for tax purposes will be critical. Under Australian tax law, if the new holding company has Australian directors who regularly only attend board meetings from Australia, there is a risk that the new holding company will also be a resident of Australia for Australian tax purposes on the basis that it has its central management and control in Australia, and therefore carries on business in Australia. Although the previous Australian government announced that it would look to amend these rules, the current Australian government has been silent on this issue as of April 2023.

An important part of these transactions is explaining the changes to the existing shareholder base and understanding how core rights and protections will change as a result of the redomiciliation. A good example of this is explaining how the takeover rules applicable to their shares will change and whether or not this can impact their ability to access a premium for control.

Given the regulatory and tax structure adopted will have important consequences for the corporate group, designing a regime that balances competing demands of stakeholder expectations, norms in the market and not adopting undue regulatory compliance burden is critical.

Case Study – Amcor’s redomiciliation​



Conclusion

Redomiciliation transactions can be a valuable option for businesses seeking to expand their global reach or benefit from being listed on the major overseas stock exchanges and having access to the greater pools of capital found offshore. However, successfully undertaking this kind of transaction requires careful planning, execution and communication by management. Redomiciling is a major event in the life of any business so weighing up the pros and cons and making informed decisions along the way is important, as is working with experienced legal and financial advisors who can help ensure a smooth and successful transaction.
 
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