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Scoota30

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View attachment 67089 Well ain’t that a kick in the nuts
Would this action not work in our favour to get the ICSID case pulled forward anymore? Not just ignoring/inaction the interim orders but a clear oppositional move. Surely this would give us merit to bring the final hearing date forward in some way to put pressure on?
 
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SilentOne

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AGOA Summit: Julien Paluku pleads in favor of exporting mining products to the USA without customs duties​

Last updated: 2024/07/24 at 6:42 PM
MinesPublished July 24, 2024

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The Minister in charge of Foreign Trade of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Julien Paluku, has advocated for the export of mining products to the United States of America (USA) without customs duties.

It was during his participation, last Tuesday in Washington (USA), in a meeting related to the American Act on Growth and Opportunity in Africa (AGOA) that Julien Paluku defended foreign trade in sub-Saharan Africa.

"I was received at the American Congress in Washington where I pleaded with national senators and deputies for the renewal of AGOA which allows eligible sub-Saharan African countries to export most of their products to the United States of America without customs duties," declared the Minister of Foreign Trade Julien Paluku.

The DRC has 26 exportable mining and non-mining commodities. This meeting, which is taking place in Washington, aims to promote mutual interests between the host country, the USA, and sub-Saharan Africa.

Daniel Bawuna


The DRC needs to pull their finger out and sort their shit out sooner than later - they are likely going to get a better outcome while the Democrats are in power with any agreement/negotiations. Should the Republicans get in, Trump is likely to drive a tougher deal that benefits America more than the DRC - he loves the deal.

Trumpy is not one to be blackmailed - it also seems there is a theme/undercurrent that the DRC are wanting support in their boarder wars which they are seemingly trying to leverage for outcomes in mining (Felix I suspect is playing off Europe/China/America off each other).

The DRC are going to do more harm to themselves by delaying positive outcomes for Dathcoms tenement while we progress through the ICSID / ICC and the potential swing to the Republicans - but Tim (time) will tell.

The DRC reaps what they sow - at the moment it is nothing for their poor and disenfranchised population. Dathcom will assist in growing wealth in the local community of Manono for the poor and destitute.

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Javman

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Has anyone got a reply via email from AVZ lately? I’ve been ignored.
 
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Samus

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Management need to come out of their bubble and answer some questions.

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how can this happen given that:
"AVZ has re-established a strong line of communication with the Government of the
Democratic Republic of Congo following the recent Presidential election."

What is our immediate response in local and international courts?

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What are the timelines for these glacial pace arbitrations please??

Also

What is happening with our MoU you've been banging on about for 12 months which represents the only claim to any sort of positive progression?

What about funding??

I'm not really buying the silence is golden approach more than two years down the track when AVZ have already called out the corruption and given how swiftly things are moving against us. Why aren't they publicly condemning things like this when the courts have ordered the reinstatement of our tenement and issued fines against the illegal actions of cominiere? Somebody or multiple peoples are feeding them bullshit behind the scenes without any action to back it up as Zijin move full speed ahead doing whatever they like which is validated through official channels like CAMI against stop work and court orders.

We are stuck with inaction due to legalities as the enemy carries on ignoring any and every legal protocol that's in place.

It's entirely possible I've lost the plot but ffs put some real pressure on these criminals. It feels like a slow motion train wreck.
Nobody is going to buy this if Zijin is already set up next door with control of all the electric, water and other infrastructure.

10 years of seeking damages through arbitration is looking highly likely.
 
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Pokok

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Has anyone got a reply via email from AVZ lately? I’ve been ignored.
Because they have nothing to add to their last announcement IMO ,
 
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Pokok

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Management need to come out of their bubble and answer some questions.

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how can this happen given that:
"AVZ has re-established a strong line of communication with the Government of the
Democratic Republic of Congo following the recent Presidential election."

What is our immediate response in local and international courts?

And

What are the timelines for these glacial pace arbitrations please??

Also

What is happening with our MoU you've been banging on about for 12 months which represents the only claim to any sort of positive progression?

What about funding??

I'm not really buying the silence is golden approach more than two years down the track when AVZ have already called out the corruption and given how swiftly things are moving against us. Why aren't they publicly condemning things like this when the courts have ordered the reinstatement of our tenement and issued fines against the illegal actions of cominiere? Somebody or multiple peoples are feeding them bullshit behind the scenes without any action to back it up as Zijin move full speed ahead doing whatever they like which is validated through official channels like CAMI against stop work and court orders.

We are stuck with inaction due to legalities as the enemy carries on ignoring any and every legal protocol that's in place.

It's entirely possible I've lost the plot but ffs put some real pressure on these criminals. It feels like a slow motion train wreck.
Nobody is going to buy this if Zijin is already set up next door with control of all the electric, water and other infrastructure.

10 years of seeking damages through arbitration is looking highly likely.
Now delisted they are not bound to tell us anything so I don't expect it , we have been fucked over by the chinks and corrupt DRC and there is not a thing we can do about it but sit and wait , financially in trouble for some shareholders is zero concern for Zijin , DRC , AVZ management that's how I see it .
 
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wombat74

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Management need to come out of their bubble and answer some questions.

Like

how can this happen given that:
"AVZ has re-established a strong line of communication with the Government of the
Democratic Republic of Congo following the recent Presidential election."

What is our immediate response in local and international courts?

And

What are the timelines for these glacial pace arbitrations please??

Also

What is happening with our MoU you've been banging on about for 12 months which represents the only claim to any sort of positive progression?

What about funding??

I'm not really buying the silence is golden approach more than two years down the track when AVZ have already called out the corruption and given how swiftly things are moving against us. Why aren't they publicly condemning things like this when the courts have ordered the reinstatement of our tenement and issued fines against the illegal actions of cominiere? Somebody or multiple peoples are feeding them bullshit behind the scenes without any action to back it up as Zijin move full speed ahead doing whatever they like which is validated through official channels like CAMI against stop work and court orders.

We are stuck with inaction due to legalities as the enemy carries on ignoring any and every legal protocol that's in place.

It's entirely possible I've lost the plot but ffs put some real pressure on these criminals. It feels like a slow motion train wreck.
Nobody is going to buy this if Zijin is already set up next door with control of all the electric, water and other infrastructure.

10 years of seeking damages through arbitration is looking highly likely.
What is our current cash situation ? I think I recall someone saying we are good until November . Do they have to report EOFY numbers ?
 
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wombat74

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Has anyone got a reply via email from AVZ lately? I’ve been ignored.
If anyone lives in Perth you can always pay Nigel and his crew a visit . New address is on the website .
 
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Flight996

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On a lighter note...

Re: West African Aquaculture Ltd, Kurt Lennart Hansson and Martje Bolt Hansson v. Republic of The Gambia (ICSID Case No. ARB/18/10)

In April 2024, the ICSID ruled in favor of Swedish and Australian investors, ordering Gambia to pay damages for the unlawful expropriation of their tiger-prawn farming business. The case stemmed from actions taken by the Gambian government under former president Yahya Jammeh, which involved the direct seizure of the investors' aquaculture facility without compensation. Does that sound familiar?

The Tribunal awarded the investors approximately 95% of the damages they claimed, amounting to over £20 million ($AU39.3 million), along with interest at a rate of 8% from the date of expropriation until payment is made. Additionally, the investors were awarded full legal costs associated with the arbitration process. The Gambian government acknowledged the award, linking it to the previous administration's disregard for the rule of law and arbitrary decision-making practices.

As we are all aware, AVZ has a solid case against the corrupt DRC snake headed by Felix Tshisekedi. It just needs to remain sufficiently buoyant and engaged to see things through to completion.

Cheers
F

PS, still on Ko Samui and considering not coming home until this shit is resolved or I run out of money (whichever comes first).
 
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Remark

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Friday funnys?

  • What do you give a man who has everything?
    Penicillin.
 
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wombat74

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A guy walks into a bar and orders 12 shots. Before the bartender even returns with the bill, the man has slammed back half of them and shows no signs of slowing down. As the guy finishes his final shot, the bartender asks, "Why are you drinking so fast?"
The guy wipes his mouth and replies, "You would be drinking fast, too, if you had what I had." The bartender asks, "What do you have?"
The guy says, "75 cents,” and runs out the door.
 
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BRICK

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A guy walks into a bar and orders 12 shots. Before the bartender even returns with the bill, the man has slammed back half of them and shows no signs of slowing down. As the guy finishes his final shot, the bartender asks, "Why are you drinking so fast?"
The guy wipes his mouth and replies, "You would be drinking fast, too, if you had what I had." The bartender asks, "What do you have?"
The guy says, "75 cents,” and runs out the door.
um... so, was his name Nigel?
 
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CashKing

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um... so, was his name Nigel?
Nigel is still getting paid, more than likely a AVZ Shareholder….

75cents 🤔 I’d rather $1 and this ended but whatever.

GLTAH
 
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Jazz

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If anyone lives in Perth you can always pay Nigel and his crew a visit . New address is on the website .
When next in Perth I would be more inclined to chase up Michael Carrick.
 
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oxxa23

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When next in Perth I would be more inclined to chase up Michael Carrick.
For anyone going, happy to shout the drinks... 🤣
 

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Javman

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It’s likely been covered but has anyone written this off as a loss against tax? Could it be adjusted later if/when we get a return?
 
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Winenut

Go AVZ!
It’s likely been covered but has anyone written this off as a loss against tax? Could it be adjusted later if/when we get a return?
Check with your accountant/tax specialist..


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oxxa23

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It’s likely been covered but has anyone written this off as a loss against tax? Could it be adjusted later if/when we get a return?
Technically not a capital loss yet... you still own shares in a company that's alive and kicking..... alive and limping....
 
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Winenut

Go AVZ!
Technically not a capital loss yet... you still own shares in a company that's alive and kicking..... alive and limping....
 
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