AVZ Discussion 2022

[Samus]

There are many ways our politicians or PM could put pressure on the DRC or to help give the negotiations a "bump". Correct me if i'm wrong but we have publicly seen ministers or delegations from EU,US & China make public statements & travel to the DRC. Other than our ambassador (Based out of zimbabwe lol & that took long enough to happen) i don't think there have been any aus ministers that have gone over there trying to help? All we have heard or seen is that they "continue to follow and monitor the case" i.e fuckall and watching from a distance.

Like Samus said above, China as a whole is continuing to hemorrhage the global critical mineral industry and in doing so is affecting other australia businesses/industries but the entire west is too focused on trying to be inclusive, diverse, equitable and politically correct rather than showing force to actually combat china. makes me sick watching it happen in realtime.

“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”​

I also think our politicians should be calling out the Chinese for their blatant corruption and theft but they're too busy slurping the shit out of Chinese arse.
China are developing a strangle hold on multiple supply chains for critical minerals for the energy transition, already they seem to have almost a monopoly on ev production as a result with even well known European and American brands being manufactured in China.
Stategic deposits like Manono shouldn't be let to slip away so easily.
DRC could learn a lot from Australian mining as well and break away from the strangle hold the Chinese have on them.
The Chinese simply take what they want and throw the corrupt elites a few snacks as they plunder the resources of shit box countries like the DRC. They need to be held to account for this type of attitude and be sanctioned for continued bad behaviour.
They're a pack of lowlife thieving assholes who'll tread on anybody if it benefits them, renowned for their ruthless and immoral business practices, a culture of thieving pigs.

 

[Panther22]

I also think our politicians should be calling out the Chinese for their blatant corruption and theft but they're too busy slurping the shit out of Chinese arse.
China are developing a strangle hold on multiple supply chains for critical minerals for the energy transition, already they seem to have almost a monopoly on ev production as a result with even well known European and American brands being manufactured in China.
Stategic deposits like Manono shouldn't be let to slip away so easily.
DRC could learn a lot from Australian mining as well and break away from the strangle hold the Chinese have on them.
The Chinese simply take what they want and throw the corrupt elites a few snacks as they plunder the resources of shit box countries like the DRC. They need to be held to account for this type of attitude and be sanctioned for continued bad behaviour.
They're a pack of lowlife thieving assholes who'll tread on anybody if it benefits them, renowned for their ruthless and immoral business practices, a culture of thieving pigs.

This is the problem, China simply ignore rulings or decisions. Have a look at the Spratley islands decision in favour of the Phillipines. China simply says the decision is null and void and NOTHING has happened since and this decision was in July 2016 by The Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague constituted by the UN Convention of Law of the Sea who say their decision is final and binding. No follow up, no further penalties, nothing.
This is what the World faces in every aspect where China is involved. They do it their way without consequence so if anyone thinks the Australian Government is going to say or do anything about our situation you are dreaming, we all are.

 

[Frank]

At the DRC-China Economic Forum: Kizito PAKABOMBA reveals to investors the opportunities of the Congolese mining sector

The considerable assets of the Congolese mining sector were highlighted during the DRC-China Economic Forum held on Tuesday, September 3, 2024, in Beijing.

Very determined to bail out his sector, the Minister of Mines, Kizito PAKABOMBA, also presented to Chinese investors the many opportunities to be seized in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

He also reminded the participants in the Beijing forum that the mining sector is the main driver of economic growth and development in the DRC, directly contributing to the well-being of the populations.

Given the advantages of the mining sector, Kizito PAKABOMBA particularly insisted on the need to keep it attractive and competitive, capable of attracting foreign investment, particularly Chinese.

During a dedicated panel, the Minister invited Chinese investors to explore the opportunities offered in various areas such as digital, agriculture, sustainable infrastructure and cities, energy, manufacturing industries as well as the exploitation and local processing of natural resources.

"The mineral resources of the DRC are mostly underexploited or unexploited.

This reality has led the Government, through the Ministry of Mines, to adopt a development strategy based on three approaches: the discovery of new deposits, adding value to commercial mining products, and promoting investments in basic infrastructure," said Kizito PAKABOMBA.

He insisted on the fact that these approaches open up promising prospects for investors who see the DRC as a favorable destination for the development of profitable and sustainable projects.

Very lucid in his presentation, the Minister of Mines unveiled several strategic projects identified and budgeted, for which investors are actively sought.

These projects include:

- the establishment of a steelmaking entity in the great Orientale Province and in Kasai.
- the development of phosphate resources in Kongo-Central.
- the installation of a pyrometallurgical entity for the treatment of 3T.
- the development of geothermal deposits.

- the exploitation of common construction materials and industrial minerals.

- the establishment of a plant for the treatment of impure cobalt hydroxide to produce precursors for energy storage in lithium-ion batteries.

- the creation of a plant for the production of electrolytic manganese dioxide for the manufacture of batteries.

- the exploitation of nickel-chrome in Nkonko and Lutshatsha in the province of Kasai-Central, where resources have been estimated at 800 million tonnes of nickel ore at an average grade of 1.10%, and 13 million tonnes of chrome ore at a grade of 3.5%.

This first DRC-China economic forum, which opened on Monday, September 2 in Beijing, marks a crucial step in bilateral relations between the two countries.

Bringing together more than 300 Chinese and Congolese participants, this event demonstrates the DRC's commitment to strengthening its ties with China for sustainable and inclusive economic development.

China, through some of its companies, has already been present in the Democratic Republic of Congo for several years, where it has been investing in the mining sector.

Several contracts were rediscussed and signed between the Congolese and Chinese governments last year.

mediacongo

 

[Pokok]

nice spat between der giest and Jens/ Con on X

everyone tripping over their ego's

Fuck no

 

[Mute22]

848 days since AVZ went into suspension.

 

[Bonsoir]

I also think our politicians should be calling out the Chinese for their blatant corruption and theft but they're too busy slurping the shit out of Chinese arse.
China are developing a strangle hold on multiple supply chains for critical minerals for the energy transition, already they seem to have almost a monopoly on ev production as a result with even well known European and American brands being manufactured in China.
Stategic deposits like Manono shouldn't be let to slip away so easily.
DRC could learn a lot from Australian mining as well and break away from the strangle hold the Chinese have on them.
The Chinese simply take what they want and throw the corrupt elites a few snacks as they plunder the resources of shit box countries like the DRC. They need to be held to account for this type of attitude and be sanctioned for continued bad behaviour.
They're a pack of lowlife thieving assholes who'll tread on anybody if it benefits them, renowned for their ruthless and immoral business practices, a culture of thieving pigs.

So if we can’t get any traction with the Australian government, how do we 20,000 strong share holders shame these cunts, chinese and drc and throw the Australian government in there as well. How do we get some attention ?

 

[Jazz]

So if we can’t get any traction with the Australian government, how do we 20,000 strong share holders shame these cunts, chinese and drc and throw the Australian government in there as well. How do we get some attention ?

A coordinated and proactive, rather than reactive, presence on social and traditional media. A firm and fact based rebutal of false and misleading commentary on the company. Avoiding defamatory comments that are not fact based.

Many of you are doing a great job of this.

 

[Scoota30]

You said there are many ways Aus can put pressure on the DRC but then didn't list any?

Any sanction/crime the President or officials would care about would need to get the approval/action of the US Government.

They could start by sending a delegation that isn't just the ambassador to Zimbabwe and then they could grow some balls and speak publicly about the issue. Apparently the deposit is of "national interest" when the FIRB knocked back Yibins offer but there's been no other public comment on the issue apart from when Pauline said she would look into it but we didn't hear anything after that either?

The carrot or the stick metaphor also comes to mind but it seems like the DRC are the ones dangling the carrot for the last few years, it was time for the stick after last year's AGM or at least now that they're clearly ignoring ICSID orders.

 

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Good luck Felix with your expectations of China...........you are just a mere puppet , just like Albo.

 

[robface]

They could start by sending a delegation that isn't just the ambassador to Zimbabwe and then they could grow some balls and speak publicly about the issue. Apparently the deposit is of "national interest" when the FIRB knocked back Yibins offer but there's been no other public comment on the issue apart from when Pauline said she would look into it but we didn't hear anything after that either?

The carrot or the stick metaphor also comes to mind but it seems like the DRC are the ones dangling the carrot for the last few years, it was time for the stick after last year's AGM or at least now that they're clearly ignoring ICSID orders.

I share your frustration but there is fuck all Aus gov can do that they would care about.

Pathetic they got involved at FIRB then dropped it like a bag of potatoes.

Any influence needs to be from USA or EU.

 

[marksmann007]

I share your frustration but there is fuck all Aus gov can do that they would care about.

Pathetic they got involved at FIRB then dropped it like a bag of potatoes.

Any influence needs to be from USA or EU.

Well our government could tell the DRC as a matter of national interest the Australian government is providing AVZ minerals with legal and financial support.
Think that wouldn’t help?
If only…

 

[cruiser51]

I share your frustration but there is fuck all Aus gov can do that they would care about.

Pathetic they got involved at FIRB then dropped it like a bag of potatoes.

Any influence needs to be from USA or EU.

Did you forget there was a change of political party in power in Australia in May 2022?
It is the current labor party which is extremely short sighted in regards of global critical minerals.
It was when the liberal party was in power when China was told to piss off.

 

[Ant90]

The West can’t compete, especially when China don’t play by the rules and throw long money (strings attached) at shortsighted people with only their personal interests at heart!

 

[Hemicuda]

BTW
If anyone thinks FT, or anyone else, is gonna turn from a poacher to a gamekeeper then google prostitution and Davos, for starters.
See what goes down

Suppose, he spends his evenings snorting Coke from a hooker's rs.
And suppose that hooker is a lady-boy.
And suppose the Chinese have filmed it.
But that wouldn't happen.

There seems to be much ongoing naivety here about the actions of confirmed bad actors.

Leopards and spots.

Zero here mate,, cue silent one for some lecture on how we should think 3,2,1

 

[SilentOne]

Zero here mate,, cue silent one for some lecture on how we should think 3,2,1

Hemicuda,

Never a lecture just a perspective

 

[Flight996]

Well our government could tell the DRC as a matter of national interest the Australian government is providing AVZ minerals with legal and financial support.
Think that wouldn’t help?
If only…

If the federal govt can invest a billion dollars of taxpayers' money in the Solar Sunshot program in order to strengthen Australia's domestic solar panel manufacturing, then it can damn well provide a mere $20 million to support AVZ's fight to the death against relentless Sino-Congo theft and corruption.

While we are late to the solar panel party, we are not late to the lithium party.

Cheers
F

 

[BEISHA]

At the DRC-China Economic Forum: Kizito PAKABOMBA reveals to investors the opportunities of the Congolese mining sector

The considerable assets of the Congolese mining sector were highlighted during the DRC-China Economic Forum held on Tuesday, September 3, 2024, in Beijing.

Very determined to bail out his sector, the Minister of Mines, Kizito PAKABOMBA, also presented to Chinese investors the many opportunities to be seized in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

He also reminded the participants in the Beijing forum that the mining sector is the main driver of economic growth and development in the DRC, directly contributing to the well-being of the populations.

Given the advantages of the mining sector, Kizito PAKABOMBA particularly insisted on the need to keep it attractive and competitive, capable of attracting foreign investment, particularly Chinese.

During a dedicated panel, the Minister invited Chinese investors to explore the opportunities offered in various areas such as digital, agriculture, sustainable infrastructure and cities, energy, manufacturing industries as well as the exploitation and local processing of natural resources.

"The mineral resources of the DRC are mostly underexploited or unexploited.

This reality has led the Government, through the Ministry of Mines, to adopt a development strategy based on three approaches: the discovery of new deposits, adding value to commercial mining products, and promoting investments in basic infrastructure," said Kizito PAKABOMBA.

He insisted on the fact that these approaches open up promising prospects for investors who see the DRC as a favorable destination for the development of profitable and sustainable projects.

Very lucid in his presentation, the Minister of Mines unveiled several strategic projects identified and budgeted, for which investors are actively sought.

These projects include:

- the establishment of a steelmaking entity in the great Orientale Province and in Kasai.
- the development of phosphate resources in Kongo-Central.
- the installation of a pyrometallurgical entity for the treatment of 3T.
- the development of geothermal deposits.

- the exploitation of common construction materials and industrial minerals.

- the establishment of a plant for the treatment of impure cobalt hydroxide to produce precursors for energy storage in lithium-ion batteries.

- the creation of a plant for the production of electrolytic manganese dioxide for the manufacture of batteries.

- the exploitation of nickel-chrome in Nkonko and Lutshatsha in the province of Kasai-Central, where resources have been estimated at 800 million tonnes of nickel ore at an average grade of 1.10%, and 13 million tonnes of chrome ore at a grade of 3.5%.

This first DRC-China economic forum, which opened on Monday, September 2 in Beijing, marks a crucial step in bilateral relations between the two countries.

"The mineral resources of the DRC are mostly underexploited or unexploited.

China, through some of its companies, has already been present in the Democratic Republic of Congo for several years, where it has been investing in the mining sector.

Several contracts were rediscussed and signed between the Congolese and Chinese governments last year.

mediacongo

"The mineral resources of the DRC are mostly underexploited or unexploited.

That made be so, but the DRC govt has been extremely exploited by China and in turn, has instructed DRC Govt to severely exploite AVZ.

This first DRC-China economic forum, which opened on Monday, September 2 in Beijing, marks a crucial step in bilateral relations between the two countries.

Little ole AVZ, a mere pawn , stuck in a cesspool of subtofuge

 

[BEISHA]

Ill take 35c if anyone wants to buy..pm me

 

[BEISHA]

Be Nigel in September 2024:

>Wakeup, rollover and check phone for a missed call from the Honourable Penny Wong after emailing office her 2 years ago. Nothing yet, feeling good about tomorrow though!
>Get out of bed and take a stroll through my multi-million dollar 9-bedroom home overlooking the Swan River, hope the seagulls haven’t soiled my 3 boats moored out front again. I’ll have to do another cap raise!
> Jeeves has prepared my usual breakfast, a pineapple fruit salad with pineapple juice and black coffee, a delicious Congolese blend I picked up when I was last in country 3 years ago. Take my pineapple suppository, gotta be healthy.
>Put on my bullet proof vest, and climb into my AVZ funded armoured assault vehicle to push through the mum and dad investors lining my 14 car driveway. Don’t they understand I’m trying to save them?
>Arrive at the office, it’s just me and the intern now. Gotta cut back to save my salary somehow right?
> Boot up windows Vista.
> 12632 new investor emails last night, move that to my ‘to do’ folder, I’ll get to it one day..
>Check accounts payable, $6,773,088.76 overdue to lawyers - forward to the accountant to find some cash.
>Open word document, title it “AGM November 2024 escape routes and security measures”.
ugh I’ll give it to the intern to write my address to shareholders. Just need to make sure it’s long enough there isn’t room for question time.
> Open ICSID portal, enter login details.. “you are 283 in line for international justice, your case is important to us, please hold the line”
>Pull out my Xiomi mobile and open Westbank account - wicked my 40,000 a month pay check came in! Begin browsing Temu for knockoff uggboots.

 

[dollarbills]

I share your frustration but there is fuck all Aus gov can do that they would care about.

Pathetic they got involved at FIRB then dropped it like a bag of potatoes.

Any influence needs to be from USA or EU.

The influence of the US and EU needs to be soon. Particularly if they are serious about critical minerals. The strengthening of BRICS and ever growing list of countries wanting membership is showing there is a large shift in political alliances and power. So if the US or EU want to flex their muscle they better do it before DRC align themselves fully with China and the BRICS alliance (DRC have already expressed interest at a previous summit).