AVZ Discussion 2022

Charbella

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Good question! Seems facilitating Zijin's illegal entry into Dathcom is proof enough of competence, somehow! And getting caught on a recording taking a bribe from Zijin is good enough to cement CKK into the top job. What's the government thinking?

How on earth could we get Cominiere to cede 10% of their holding to the government with CKK at the helm, when they've proven their previous willingness to ignore the JVA before without issue, and with the BOD (that would be required to approve any transfer of those shares) now seemingly in control of someone who's already sold her soul to Zijin for 1.6m USD?

We really need a solution to this impasse that completely sidelines Cominiere, i.e. one that is implemented and enforced from the top down - ideally at presidential level.

...Or a takeover. Bring out the big bucks!
Incoming TO offer by Zijin? $12!
 
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Roon

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Yes but you're making the statement that it's all now an an impass and we can't move forward.
There's nothing to support that statement and it seems an eger over reach, which is a bit sus that's all.

Anyway I'm fairly certain that a resolution has been already reached and none of this matters anymore.
I think we'll hear about it very soon.
We can certainly move forward if an agreement can or has been reached with the higher echelons of goverment.

But I do see an impasse with Cominiere obviously and I cant see us moving forward with any involvement whatsoever involving them - and who seem to just have been backed to an extent by government with these appointments.

It's just conjecture re: Potential challenges, but you also seem eager to sideline my views as suspect moving forward. I'll try to post less to reduce the opposing perspective here if you like, but it's difficult when the AVZ issue consumes so much of my life and attention these last 18 months.

Moving on....
 
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31/07/2023

Lithium: the COMINIERE and the Congolese State paid US$1.6 million for the lobbying of Lisette Tshibwabwa Kabanga

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"Lisette Kabanga Tshibwabwa justified in particular the legality of lobbying in Congo"
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Lithium: the COMINIERE and the Congolese State paid US$1.6 million for the lobbying of Lisette Tshibwabwa Kabanga​

July 31, 2023
Kiki Kienge

Lithium the ore of the century, that of eclectic batteries that the whole world is struggling to regain possession of, lithium is a strategic metal for the energy transition, even saying it for the future of our planet, it is also a metal considered critical following the great risk of its supply by its scarcity.

But now, in DR Congo following the politicization of the file, the Manono lithium project in Tanganyika, which should make DR Congo one of the giants in the world and the main player in the energy transition, in particular to return the letters of nobility to the country of Lumumba in the global mining sector, is almost at a stop.

The Minister of Mines of Congo, Antoinette N'Samba Kalambayi by an order signed on January 28, 2023, had suspended the Operating Permit (PE13359) of the joint venture DATCOM granted in April 2022 after the feasibility study of the Australians of AVZ MINERALS 75% partner in DATHCOM, following the accusations of the COMINIERE state company and hastily in DA

COMINIERE had accused AVZ MINERALS of having taken the project and the joint venture, DATHCOM hostage in that it conducted the research and management of the joint venture without associating it from beginning to end, in particular of not having actually carried out research.
"The revelations come from a very serious Australian newspaper, which says that it would have US$six million, which should be paid to a Congolese intermediary, I don't know if it's Mr. Marius Mihigo," said the acting director general of the COMINIERE, Célestin Kibeya accusing the lobbying and mediation of Mr. Marius Mihigo

In fact, AVZ MINERALS had used Marius Mihigo for intermediation (lobbying) in DR Congo, to promote the image of society and facilitate contacts with administrations and decision-making authorities of Manono's lithium file, a legal and legalized work, particularly recognized in DR Congo and around the world.

Namely that Mr. Mihigo and his company are not paid by the Congolese State, nor with the Congolese taxpayer's money, but by private funds of the company, AVZ MINERALS, therefore free for Australians to choose who and how should work for him and will only have to report to its shareholders.

But here, the same state society accusing the intermediation of Marius Mihigo, the COMINIERE had used Mrs. Lisette Kabanga Tshibwabwa, then head of the office of the security advisor to President Félix Tshisekedi, Mr Jean-Claude Bukasa, in particular member and Deputy National Secretary UDPS in relation to the socialist international and the progressive alliances
For "presenting" the ChinoisZIJIN group to the COMINIERE and the Congolese State through the Ministries of Mines and the Portfolio, (presented in doubt, since the latter were already in contact with ZIJIN's Chinese in other projects).

Mrs. Lisette Kabanga Tshibwabwa and her company Focus plaidoirie created in 2020, received a retrocommission of US$1,600,000 simply for their lobbying in the sale, or the sale according to the IGF (Inspection Générale des Finances) of the 15% of COMINIERE's shares in DATHCOM, at a derisory sum of US$33

Mrs. Lisette Kabanga Tshibwabwa contacted on this 15% sales file, had recognized her work of intermediation between the Chinese of ZIJIN and the COMINIERE, her fee of US$1,600,000, in particular to justify the legality of lobbying or prohibition in Rd Congo.

Because then, why does the same COMINIERE through its director, Céléstin Kibeya and some advisers to the Head of State, Félix Tshisekedi criticize and consider the same intermediation work of Mr. Marius Mihigo for a private group, which is AVZ MINERALS?





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Looks like I might have to give her her own thread…. But come on fellas, it’s the fucken weekend and I’m expecting good news
 
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Winenut

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Doc

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So sick of the crap in the DRC and supposed good news coming for months. Give me $1.20 and I'm out the door without a backward glance.

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Samus

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I’ll leave you lot on a hopefully more positive note before signing off

If you’re having trouble processing Lisette Kabamba as Cominiere’s new Chairperson

Just imagine if it was Lisette Kabemba
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Bonsoir

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These corrupt twats trying to illegally take Manono from AVZ think it’s a big game, somewhere amongst the register I would imagine there are some very large holders that are probably not very nice of character, unlike us lot.

They don’t take kindly being duped and play for keeps, very nasty characters indeed.

I’m not saying I know of any of these type and I may have watched the Godfather one to many times BUT I would not like to be responsible for loss of these amounts of money through corruption.
 
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Azzler

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These corrupt twats trying to illegally take Manono from AVZ think it’s a big game, somewhere amongst the register I would imagine there are some very large holders that are probably not very nice of character, unlike us lot.

They don’t take kindly being duped and play for keeps, very nasty characters indeed.

I’m not saying I know of any of these type and I may have watched the Godfather one to many times BUT I would not like to be responsible for loss of these amounts of money through corruption.
I've often wondered what goings on might have occurred or are occuring that are out of sight.
Indeed, ambitious extremerly wealthy holders with millions on the line would certainly be taking actions. Some legal I'm sure, but certainly shady, especially in a place like the DRC.
You don't threaten to steal away billions in value without counter conciquences.
 
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Samus

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Are we doing a go fund me for a hitman is that what I'm hearing
:eek: Now there's something for the detractors to run with, maybe Tommy Twat can write the article with 'who poo'd in Jerkoff's pool?' as a side headline.
 
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BEISHA

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Under-appreciated post here.

Let’s not forget that COMINIERE tried to deliberately lose this case to fuck us up and feather their own nest [cough, Celestin]. It took a late and concerted effort from journos and others to get COMINIERE to even send a legal team to the defend COMINIERE’s position. Without that intervention COMINIERE would not have the required 10% to cede to the government as part of the ML arrangements, leaving us in a permanent state of pineapple.

I’d like to think there will be a dawn raid on Celestin’s house any day now…
"Let’s not forget that COMINIERE tried to deliberately lose this case to fuck us up and feather their own nest [cough, Celestin]"

Debilerately lose the case, or so arrogant in their attitude that the case was a formality/or they didnt have enuff funds to defend ?

Either way, the case was a formality for Cominiere as MMCS didnt have a argument, ironically thru DRC law which states in broad terms that you cant sit on a tenement for beyond a period of time without expending a certain amount of money on exploration.........you snooze , you lose, thats standard practice globally .....imo

As everyone said, great that Cominiere has 10% and can cede to DRC govt...........buts that where the " wins " finish for that fuck tard operation, cause as clear cut as the Cominiere / MMCS case was, it will be more than clear cut when AVZ defend against the " SPURIOUS " Cominiere / Zijin regards to ROFR and those ridiculous compensation claims.

Bring it on.
 
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My mate Dave was having a bit more of a look at Cominiere and found this smug looking bloke. He’s Cominiere’s Executive Secretary and has links to Tantalex as well as supposedly being a Professor of Accounting and Other Courses including Import Smuggling and Exporting and Petty Cash Finance…. Most likely someone who’s name should be passed on to Jules Alingete, if he’s not already being looked at

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Fletch77

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Trying to decide what to name this new anchorage, any suggestions ?

Knobby’s, Klaus, Tommy’s..

Or possibly Jag’s, as that sack looks like it has a nut 🥜 missing ??




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Juba1845

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"Let’s not forget that COMINIERE tried to deliberately lose this case to fuck us up and feather their own nest [cough, Celestin]"

Debilerately lose the case, or so arrogant in their attitude that the case was a formality/or they didnt have enuff funds to defend ?

Either way, the case was a formality for Cominiere as MMCS didnt have a argument, ironically thru DRC law which states in broad terms that you cant sit on a tenement for beyond a period of time without expending a certain amount of money on exploration.........you snooze , you lose, thats standard practice globally .....imo

As everyone said, great that Cominiere has 10% and can cede to DRC govt...........buts that where the " wins " finish for that fuck tard operation, cause as clear cut as the Cominiere / MMCS case was, it will be more than clear cut when AVZ defend against the " SPURIOUS " Cominiere / Zijin regards to ROFR and those ridiculous compensation claims.

Bring it on.
Mining License first . ICC stuff can runs it's course . AVZ cannot wait for these legal cases to unfold.
 
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31/07/2023

Lithium: the COMINIERE and the Congolese State paid US$1.6 million for the lobbying of Lisette Tshibwabwa Kabanga

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"Lisette Kabanga Tshibwabwa justified in particular the legality of lobbying in Congo"
NEWSECONOMY

Lithium: the COMINIERE and the Congolese State paid US$1.6 million for the lobbying of Lisette Tshibwabwa Kabanga​

July 31, 2023
Kiki Kienge

Lithium the ore of the century, that of eclectic batteries that the whole world is struggling to regain possession of, lithium is a strategic metal for the energy transition, even saying it for the future of our planet, it is also a metal considered critical following the great risk of its supply by its scarcity.

But now, in DR Congo following the politicization of the file, the Manono lithium project in Tanganyika, which should make DR Congo one of the giants in the world and the main player in the energy transition, in particular to return the letters of nobility to the country of Lumumba in the global mining sector, is almost at a stop.

The Minister of Mines of Congo, Antoinette N'Samba Kalambayi by an order signed on January 28, 2023, had suspended the Operating Permit (PE13359) of the joint venture DATCOM granted in April 2022 after the feasibility study of the Australians of AVZ MINERALS 75% partner in DATHCOM, following the accusations of the COMINIERE state company and hastily in DA

COMINIERE had accused AVZ MINERALS of having taken the project and the joint venture, DATHCOM hostage in that it conducted the research and management of the joint venture without associating it from beginning to end, in particular of not having actually carried out research.
"The revelations come from a very serious Australian newspaper, which says that it would have US$six million, which should be paid to a Congolese intermediary, I don't know if it's Mr. Marius Mihigo," said the acting director general of the COMINIERE, Célestin Kibeya accusing the lobbying and mediation of Mr. Marius Mihigo

In fact, AVZ MINERALS had used Marius Mihigo for intermediation (lobbying) in DR Congo, to promote the image of society and facilitate contacts with administrations and decision-making authorities of Manono's lithium file, a legal and legalized work, particularly recognized in DR Congo and around the world.

Namely that Mr. Mihigo and his company are not paid by the Congolese State, nor with the Congolese taxpayer's money, but by private funds of the company, AVZ MINERALS, therefore free for Australians to choose who and how should work for him and will only have to report to its shareholders.

But here, the same state society accusing the intermediation of Marius Mihigo, the COMINIERE had used Mrs. Lisette Kabanga Tshibwabwa, then head of the office of the security advisor to President Félix Tshisekedi, Mr Jean-Claude Bukasa, in particular member and Deputy National Secretary UDPS in relation to the socialist international and the progressive alliances
For "presenting" the ChinoisZIJIN group to the COMINIERE and the Congolese State through the Ministries of Mines and the Portfolio, (presented in doubt, since the latter were already in contact with ZIJIN's Chinese in other projects).

Mrs. Lisette Kabanga Tshibwabwa and her company Focus plaidoirie created in 2020, received a retrocommission of US$1,600,000 simply for their lobbying in the sale, or the sale according to the IGF (Inspection Générale des Finances) of the 15% of COMINIERE's shares in DATHCOM, at a derisory sum of US$33

Mrs. Lisette Kabanga Tshibwabwa contacted on this 15% sales file, had recognized her work of intermediation between the Chinese of ZIJIN and the COMINIERE, her fee of US$1,600,000, in particular to justify the legality of lobbying or prohibition in Rd Congo.

Because then, why does the same COMINIERE through its director, Céléstin Kibeya and some advisers to the Head of State, Félix Tshisekedi criticize and consider the same intermediation work of Mr. Marius Mihigo for a private group, which is AVZ MINERALS?





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Looks like I might have to give her her own thread…. But come on fellas, it’s the fucken weekend and I’m expecting good news

Don’t think we need AI to do facial recognition on whether Kabamba and Kabanga is the same person

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BEISHA

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Mining License first . ICC stuff can runs it's course . AVZ cannot wait for these legal cases to unfold.
Oh i agree, but looking forward to AVZ counter compensation claim against Cominiere to bankrupt them out of the DRC system and plant some serious egg on Zijin reputation which in essence , put some serious egg on Chynas reputation too.

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