AVZ Discussion 2022

geo_au said:

Once written up an annoucement will be forthcoming.

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Mute22 said:

GET ME (THE FUCK) OUT

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Azzler said:

Are you seriously telling us that action has been taken that is getting us out of this shithole? That some kind of sale or settlement has occured?

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geo_au said:

Once written up an annoucement will be forthcoming.

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geo_au said:

Once written up an annoucement will be forthcoming.

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wombat74 said:

To be fair to geo he is not saying an announcement is coming . He's saying when you write up an announcement you can then send it . In other words if you don't write up an announcement you can't send it .If I cook a meal I can eat it . If I don't cook a meal I can't eat it .

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SilentOne said:

Wombat,

You are and idiot - how old are you 6

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SilentOne said:

Wombat,

You are and idiot - how old are you 6

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JasonM said:

you've got a good track record so far, I appreciate you trying to keep us updated and heads up on things to come

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Mute22 said:

What will come first, WW3 or AVZ Shareholders getting fair value? Place your bets.

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Carlos Danger said:

The most interesting thing about the chain of events leading to this escrow dispute is that at no time is the amount shown in statements provided by Christian Lukusa seen as under 20m USD. The dispute arises from the claims of unauthorised transactions and his and Rawbank’s resistance to confirming their availability upon request in July as they are legally obliged to do.

Mr Lukusa is an intelligent man. I would be willing to wager every single AVZ share I own that the money is still there as it ultimately, for now at least, legally belongs to powerful forces. Unfortunately it seems like most lawyers he has sold his soul to the highest bidder to aide their attempts to further delay our progress by playing idiotic games imo

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Carlos Danger said:

Don't play their games imo

DRC: Christian Lukusa denies the alleged USD 20 million hijacking of USD 20 million against him​

Accused of embezzlement and victim of a media defamation campaign, Mr Christian Lukusa faces attacks aimed at stinging his reputation. In this right of reply, he strongly denies the false allegations against him, including the alleged disappearance of 20 million dollars. Highlighting the numerous ethical violations of its accusers, it intends to restore the truth and defend its honour in the face of these attempts at destabilization.

DEMENTI, RIGHT OF RESPONSE AND CLARIFICATIONS ON DOORS CONTROL CHRISTIAN LUKUSA

If you are accused of being a sorcerer, “no one will even bother to check the veracity or not, especially when it is posted on the net. ”

We have taken note of the false, defamatory and unfounded allegations propagated against Mr Christian Lukusa concerning his alleged disappearance with the sum of twenty million dollars.

Since he was entrusted with the defence of the interests of the company AVZ and its affiliates, it has been said that the battles in courtrooms around the world continue through the press and on social media. For more than five years, the lawyer has been the target of choosing a veritable cabal to tarnish its reputation. In turn, it was claimed that it would have been bought by the opposing party for the modest sum of six million dollars when he received daily death threats.

The media whirlwind, forced him to leave his reserve and clarify for the opinion and reassure his peers that since his swearing-in in 2006 for all his clients including those aroused, he is strictly in accordance with ethical rules and legal obligations, and has always acted in perfect accordance with the instructions of the clients during the mandate entrusted to him. Therefore, it is with vigour and energy that he will use any legal path to protect his name and reputation.

1. Why the use of the Internet and media coverage

It was not surprising that the latest publication was at the instigation of the Matadi Cabinet. This is a use of the media in violation of the ethical rules that have caused the following faults:

• Failure to fulfil the duty of loyalty and dignity by using the “Internet Court”, had the judicial authorities punished at the time of the re-entry.
• Gross violation of the inquisitorial and secret nature of proceedings at the level of the Public Prosecutor's Office.
• Gross violation of the relevant press and digital provisions by the Press Agency.
• Violation of professional rules of press for counter-checking.

It is clear that, although the constitutional provision, “no one is supposed to ignore the law” is not a stranger to him, resorting to such a process reflects a deliberate will to destroy our reputation without the opportunity for a fair trial, respect for the rights of defence and the sacrosanct principle of the presumption of innocence.

The first act in this sequence of using social networks as a court of law is the Internet and the sensational preparation was preparing to pass, a huge ethical fault, a criminal offence, an enormity and a legal uncertainty for the banking sector as a whole.

1. The complaint MF/MA/185/185/2024 which circulates on the web

This complaint posted on the Internet with acknowledgement of receipt that has already violated the above-mentioned rules has perpetrated gross and misleading allegations. This complaint boils down to:

• First admission: Matadi says on the web it had access to personal data about the escrow account. This access cannot be only illegal. It is a shock to many consumers to know that there is serious insecurity and that at any time you can have access to your personal data and the violation of bank secrets by paying a few green tickets. The sensational side was used to camouflage a serious ethical fault, a criminal banking offence and a violation of the digital code.
• Second admission: The complaint contains a striking confession in order to verify their forfeiture and whether the bank could transmit to them the personal data in secret, the Matadi firm had been opposed to the rules of bank secrecy and personal data, proving that they were in possession of the illegal personal data. The complaint contains a striking confession in her, because in order to verify the veracity of the illegally obtained data, the Matadi firm contacted the credit institution and was naturally opposed to bank secrecy and the protection of personal data.
• Third admission: The Complaint itself calls for investigations to be opened in order to have access to these data.

In the light of these facts, the knowledge of the law and the experience of the lawyers involved, it is certain that the Internet was chosen with a clear intention to harm our reputation without the opportunity to respect the pillars of our justice, namely the principles of fairness, and the presumption of innocence. These fundamental rights, from which Mr Lukusa has been deprived.

Would recent case law have evolved ethical practices to the point where a leader of his or her rank is to publish a complaint against a fellow on the web without being disturbed?

A complaint based on illegitimate, illegal grounds and hypotheticals gives everyone the right to be above the law and to establish an Internet Tribunal. Should we accept, today, in our society, that a person can, in this way, be offered to popular vindictiveness? There is no doubt that the general public will retain only the sum of twenty million dollars. The amount brandished is nothing less than an appeal to popular justice, to the judgment of the crowd.

One thing is true, the choice of the Internet, the aggressiveness of its narrative, the confirmation of guilt and the will to spread it through several channels, whose social networks are not an act of respect for the rights of the defence, but at least demonstrates a deception aimed at forgetting the original fault “the theft of personal data in a complaint as an acceptable thing”.

1. Why?

3.1. For the firm Matadi

For more than five years, the Matadi Cabinet has repeatedly wanted to wrest our mandate with AVZ, but without success, and this has created tensions between the two firms. We are surprised to see this firm, far from being exasperated by any criticism of the management of the funds of the company AVZ (USD 40,000), to play the prosecutors in this matter.

We will not dwell here on the events surrounding their interventions before the TGI Gombe or the Kalemie Commercial Court to name but a few.

3.2. With regard to the AVZ leader in charge of operations in the DRC, due to their failure to obtain the Lithium and Tin Licence from Manono, the company faced difficulties in raising funds. We can easily consider that they are now called upon to provide explanations on the use of the company’s funds. Add to that the relations that are at least tense with the authorities, we will have to look for scapegoats about payments, which are allowed by them.

The directors of the company AVZ have carried out several financial transactions and payments, which are likely to attract the interest of justice as well as other activities:

• In the Fat Tail case (Supreme Court COR 198 of 2023 in Australia), the statements made to the Court by Nigel and John are false in relation to the reality of the partial assignment of the PR 13359 Licence.
• In the case of the mediator, the real amounts were not honestly transmitted.

For more information see my next document “The Manono Tin and Lithium Project: Failing and Corruption”

Cabinet Momentum Attorneys and Advisors

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tonster66 said:

Throwing AVZ under the bus! I was with them until that.
Momentum complains about the internet being used to convey guilt, yet they have done that very thing against AVZ.

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Cumquat Cap said:

The DRC is over-run with criminals and absolute retards who wrote long sentences that mean nothing. Christian has been a shit attorney at every stop and I encourage everyone to jump on his LinkedIn and remind him as such. Where did the $20m go then Christian?

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wombat74 said:

Did AVZ Minerals accuse anyone specifically ?

"The Company has been made aware of allegations of unauthorised transactions involving the Company's escrow account in the DRC.1 The Company is investigating these allegations, including any potential wrongdoing, and to the extent there have been any unauthorised transactions in respect of the account, AVZ will take all necessary actions required."

"After careful consideration, the AVZ board has determined a path of recourse regarding allegations of unauthorised transactions involving the Company's escrow account in the DRC."

Why is Lukasa wetting the bed ?

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Carlos Danger said:

Mr Lukusa is claiming that he has been falsely accused of the disappearance of the 20m USD

The only allegations from AVZ's new lawyers is that of misappropriation and from AVZ itself of unathorised transactions

There is currently zero proof of funds missing and zero allegations from anyone connected to AVZ that funds have been stolen

Misappropriation in a legal sense includes anything from stolen money to unathorised transactions the latter of which may potentially be supported by the changing balances sent by Mr Lukusa although at no time do they ever show the amount to be below 20m USD

I am a big supporter of freedom of speech but anyone accusing Mr Lukusa of stealing some or all of the 20m USD should be very careful of making allegations that there is currently no evidence to prove or you will be playing their game imo

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Mr_Tones83 said:

The guy has been asked to provide substantive evidence several times and has refused. If the money is still there, what reason would any reputable lawyer have to deny his own client the proof?

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Carlos Danger said:

To delay our progress imo

'With regard to the AVZ leader in charge of operations in the DRC, due to their failure to obtain the Lithium and Tin Licence from Manono, the company faced difficulties in raising funds.'

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Mr_Tones83 said:

His accusations sound to me like they're coming from someone who has been bought.
Tim will tell.

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Carlos Danger said:

That is very different from alleging he stole 20m USD without evidence imo

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geo_au said:

Once written up an annoucement will be forthcoming.

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Mr_Tones83 said:

Re-read it in conjunction with my first post. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.

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Winenut said:

That one from Kiki is so right and so on the money

Two voices in country that put the full truth out are Kiki and Jonnno

Just speaking and writing the truth.....both of them

Support them both in any way you can

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